The Cult Almost Everyone is a Part Of

By HighImpactFlix

Who in the world controls you? Most people never even question whether they’re in a cult that controls them with irrational claims. Under you still under the master’s mind control?

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  • Jim Morgan

    Like religion.

  • This cult formally commenced here in America in 1787 when the constitutional framers replaced the 17th-century Christian Colonial governments of, by, and for God established upon His immutable and
    perfect law of liberty with their own humanistic government of, by, and for the people based upon capricious man-made Enlightenment and Masonic concepts.

    For more regarding these two polar opposite forms of government, see online Chapter 3 “The Preamble:
    WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page, click on the top entry, and scroll down to Chapter 3.

    Then find out how much you REALLY know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that EXAMINES the Constitution by the Bible.

    • Grundune

      Polar opposite forms of government? Theocracy vs. representative government, maybe not polar opposite but certainly different.

      Tell me Ted, how can we start a theocratic government without a prophet of God forming it under God’s direction? Maybe we should wait for God to act. He’s running the show and His timetable doesn’t usually coincided with ours.

    • Beware! Grundune is a Mormon who rejects the Christ of the Bible and the Word of God (Psalm 19:7-11; John 1:1-3, 14; 1 Timothy 3:16; 2 John 1:7-11; etc.) and whose “Doctrine and Covenants” demand he defend the Constitution as divinely inspired (D&C 101:80, etc.), much the same as the Book of Mormon. He knows if the Constitution is exposed for the biblically seditious document it is, that the entire Mormon house of cards comes tumbling down.

      He also rejects that Christ is our (ONLY) King now, despite a plethora of New Testament passages that
      proves otherwise. See blog article “The Kingdom is Not of the Word But in the World.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Blog and search on title.

      Tragically, many Christians are more inclined to follow “Doctrine and Covenants” than they are the Bible when it comes to the Constitution.

      • Grundune

        You can’t defend your silly campaign to abolish the U.S. Constitution so you attack personally anyone exposing you. Do you realize how transparent that makes you and highlights your fraudulent attempt to force the truth of the Bible into your corrupt theory.

    • Grundune

      Ted R. Weiland has no idea what Grundune believes. But he loves to bait. This chubby preacher wants you to join his cult and abolish the U.S. Constitution. But he hasn’t thought anything through because after the U.S. Constitution is abolished, what then?

      Gone are our Constitutional guarantees of liberty and freedom from government tyranny.

      Why are you doing this, Weiland? What’s your motive? Money? Power? Control? We are waiting for your answer.

      • Grundune

        This is hilarious. Weiland has the longest running repetition of a mistake and he can’t find it to correct it. See it twice in his two ad hominem attacks below.

      • Leroy Mosley

        Messenger of Satan in the guise of Religion is all he is .

        • Grundune

          That’s pretty harsh. I think he’s a stooge of Satan. I’d love to know who’s funding him.

          • Bodey046

            This coming from a member of the LDS, a tradition largely understood by bible believers to be antithetical to Christianity.

          • Grundune

            Goodness, you hedged that cut.

          • Bodey046

            Goodness you are arrogant.

          • Grundune

            You don’t know what I meant, do you!

      • Kevin A

        What he really wants is your money…that’s it.

        • Grundune

          Agreed.

          • Kevin A

            Well…lol…at least we can agree on that. Also, there is no reason why people who believe different things cannot be friends.

    • Kevin A

      Masons use the KJB

    • Kevin A

      Oh yeah…the old government that supported slavery…I see your point now

  • Whyfor

    Very, very, well done!

  • masmpg

    Sorry but the people ARE THE government! We are being duped to believe otherwise! Far too many American sheeple rely totally on what they hear on the very effective stupid box! IF, IF, IF!!!!! We the people united we can surly remove the crooks that the lamestream media install into power. Egypt proved that masses of people can overcome money mongers when they removed the obama puppet morsi and his MB minions! The murder of JFK was the hostile takeover of our political process, not THE government.

    Besides the USA has always been a republic! Rule of law created USA! You can believe anything you want to but when the crooks pervert all the laws written to guaranty freedoms it is then when we the people have the authority to demand removal according to the rule of law in the 2nd amendment. This video will deceive many into believing that they have no say in our country’s doings, when our constitution, which is the greatest document ever written, says otherwise. I take the constitution over any propaganda aimed at taking away the only hope left for USA! To even consider what the speaker in this video states is childish at best and shows how uneducated the speaker is in regards to what this once great nation was founded on.

    The great Protestant Republic of USA was founded on principles of freedom which this video completely leave out. The USA was founded on a principle of protest against a monarchical church run state governments of Europe. If this speaker has his way, and deceives many into thinking that there is no hope for America we will very rapidly return to the monarchs and oligarchs that want nothing to do with the freedom of conscience that the constitution guaranties! For real hope listen to Dinesh D’souza. This speaker must be hired by soros!

    • Whyfor

      I agree that this video does not provide answers or hope. It does get the thinking juices flowing. That’s evident from your response. I haven’t looked at the other videos in the series. Perhaps they are more upbeat. Thanks for the D’Souza recommendation. I’ve read his books and will seek out videos.

      • Veri Tas

        The clue for the implied answer lies in the author’s expose of the wrongful and harmful top-down system we all live under: The ruler-slave relationship between government and the people.

        In political science, statism is the belief that the state should control either economic or social policy, or both, to some degree.[1] Statism is effectively the opposite of anarchism.

        I think anarchism is the implied answer….

        Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions. These are often described as stateless societies,[1][2][3][4] although several authors have defined them more specifically as institutions based on non-hierarchical free associations.[5][6][7][8]

        Anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful.[9][10]

        While anti-statism is central,[11] anarchism entails opposing authority or hierarchical organisation in the conduct of all human relations, including, but not limited to, the state system.

        This subject matter can lead one to consepts, such as sovereignty of the individual.
        A great starting point for exploring sovereignty might be Marc Passio’s videos….

    • rebootbill

      The people SHOULD BE BUT ARE NOT the government. That’s the problem.

      • Kevin A

        No…the problem is that people do not believe they are the government, when they are. This is what gives power over you…

    • Kevin A

      The USA was founded on a principle of protest against a monarchical church run state governments of Europe.
      Smartest move ever…hence the advancement from the dark ages

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    What is and what should be are opposite of each other.

    • William Burke

      No.

      • Gregory Alan of Johnson

        Got proof everything is working perfectly?

        • William Burke

          The opposite of what is is what is not. The opposite of what should be is what should not be.

          • Gregory Alan of Johnson

            That’s what is, at this time. Did you have fun typing that?

          • William Burke

            Does it seem like fun to you?

          • Kevin A

            The opposite of sanity is delusion.

  • sallyM

    Great comments all.
    I would say to get rid of the unfed strings that kontrol the states. (especially Kommon Kore).
    Veri-Tas is spot on about anarchy and the stateless society.
    This would be my ideal bureaucracy or rather lack there of.
    END the unFed and the swamp creatures that own the zentral banks and manipulate economies on a pump adn dump schema.
    Usury is unChristian.
    TAXATION is THEFT.

    • Kevin A

      TAXATION is THEFT?
      No it is not.

  • Grundune

    If you’d answer questions instead of mounting ad hominem attacks on poor Grundune, you’d be able see past your silly theory.

  • Grundune

    Oh those rascally constitutional framers. How dare they replace 17th-century colonial governments with the U.S. Constitution we have today. Oh wait, the people ratified the new Constitution and it’s served us well ever since. What are you talking about, Weiland??

  • Grundune is a Mormon who rejects the Christ of the Bible and the Word of God (Psalm 19:7-11; John 1:1-3, 14; 1 Timothy 3:16; 2 John 1:7-11; etc.) and whose “Doctrine and Covenants” demand he defend the Constitution as divinely inspired (D&C 101:80, etc.), much the same as the Book of Mormon. He knows if the Constitution is exposed for the biblically seditious document it is, that the entire Mormon house of cards comes tumbling down.

    He also rejects that Christ is our (ONLY) King now, despite a plethora of New Testament passages that proves otherwise. See blog article “The Kingdom is Not of the World But in the World.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Blog and click on top article.

    Tragically, many Christians are more inclined to follow “Doctrine and Covenants” than they are the Bible when it comes to the Constitution.

    • Grundune

      Congratulations you finally found your mistake. Now correct it in the other two pastes on this blog and you have only 6 more to correct.

  • Kevin A

    “despite a plethora of New Testament passages that proves otherwise”
    If the new testament proves anything, it proves how gullible humans are to unprovable dogma.
    The truth is: Mormonism and Christianity are equally Creationist, to which neither can proove anything without using circular references to substanciate redicilous claims.
    Both are equally redicilous and false.

    • Proverbs 26:4

      • Kevin A

        That would be fine if I was a fool, which I am not.

        A person who believes the impossible is the fool.

        – witches exist
        – demons exist
        – ghosts exist
        – 20′ tall giants existed
        – virgins give birth
        – people can walk on the surface of water if they truly believe
        – the earth is 6000 years old
        – Rainbows did not exist before the flood
        – All besides a handful of animals went extinct only ~ 3000 years ago along with around a dozen people
        – Woman was made from a mans rib
        – Adam and eve were the 1st People
        – people lived for up to 1200 years

        Who is the fool you say?

        You are. Whomever believes this to be fact should be institutionalized.

        • Some say I am a fool,
          And this I say is true.
          I am a fool for Christ,
          But whose fool are you?

          Thanks, by the way, for just demonstrating the inspiration and veracity of the Bible, especially 1 Corinthians 12:2-4.

          • Kevin A

            More like complete 100% delusion.

          • 2 Corinthians 13:1. Thanks for providing a second witness to 1 Corinthians 2:12-14.

          • Kevin A

            All circular refrences that say nothing and prove nothing…merely empty words from theistic uneducated minds of the distant past.

            Explain this:

            The pope has embraced evolution as fact, after arguing for 150 years that is was heresy.

            I don’t know…so God is responsible until I know

          • The Pope!?! Who cares what such an apostate from biblical truth has to say. That’s no different than using Mohamed or Budah as your example.

          • Kevin A

            Right…only 20% of the population of the world believes he is the desendant of Jesus himself, and you believe in the same god with a different set of rules.

          • Kevin A

            What you believe is simply a newer from of Zionism.

          • Don’t be ridiculous. Zionists promotes Judaism which is one and the same as the traditions of the elders (that came out of Babylon with the Judahities) that Christ so vehemently denounced in, for example, Matthew 7:21-23. These oral traditions were circa 500 AD codified into what today is commonly known as the Babylonian Talmud, the antithesis of nearly everything moral in Yahweh’s law and arguably the most anti-Christ piece of literature on the planet.

          • Kevin A

            You are the one who is rediculous. You both believe in the same god of the old testament. You just added to the delusion.

          • Kevin A

            Some say I am a fool…for not believing the impossible. I say believe what you want to believe…it’s a matter of manifested destiny, not pre-determination.

          • Kevin A

            1 Corinthians 12:2-4New International Version (NIV)

            2 You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
            4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them.

            I adore NO IDOL

            I did not curse Jesus, he was just an innocent man who was oblivious to reality. This is not a curse, but a fact

            “and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.”

            Simply not true. Anyone can simply say anything they want whenever they want for theor own agenda, whether they believe it or not!

          • You are idol unto yourself.

          • Kevin A

            According to you and your fairy tales and indoctrination

          • Kevin A

            According to the bible, My body is a temple…which is even more grandous than a mere Idol, but is that which houses all idols of all creationist religions
            I do not worship myself, but relish in revealing the falsity and pure lies inherent to all creationist paradigms. I love to discredit those who perpetrate and degrade society of the observable truth of reality. People like you are the lowest of the intellectual low, because to rob children of the ABILITY to ascertain reality.

          • Kevin A

            And you prey on the innocent and gullible by duping them out of their money.

          • Kevin A

            Answer this:

            Without words taken from the bible, show actual evidence that god exists.

          • For those with eyes to see:

            “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.” (Psalm 19:1-3)

          • Kevin A

            firmament?
            Is this an ignorant way of saying universe?

          • Kevin A

            horse manure.

    • Grundune

      Sorry Kevin, but a major reason we are on this earth is to develop faith in Jesus Christ. God doesn’t allow a proof of His existence. In the presence of a PROOF, you can’t develop faith.

      Of course He provides plenty of EVIDENCE of His existence, but never a proof. So guys like you, the empiricists, have to recognize this and decided if you want to test faith or just bag it.

      • Kevin A

        So go on ruining and dividing the world and causing more societal segregation.

        All is good

        • Grundune

          Developing faith is open to all of God’s children, even the ones that will not know of Him while they are in mortality.

          A ruined, divided and segregated world still provides an opportunity to develop faith in God. And an opportunity to improve the world if anyone so chooses.

          • Kevin A

            God is a fairly tale.

          • Grundune

            Most adults progress beyond that thinking. Since you are writing about it, you may be also, but not to the point of being honest about it.

          • Kevin A

            Most lunatics believe in supernatural beings in other dimensions.

          • Grundune

            Only 39.4% of lunatics believe in supernatural beings in other dimensions.

          • Kevin A

            You are seeing perpetuity. Things change form, but can never be initially created or destroyed completely. I don’t see why that is so difficult to comprehend?

            You have been programmed to believe in creation by a diety, as I was when I was a child. I cannot blame you for that…I have not rejected God…I have simply realized it does not exist. That is not a rejection. You literally cannot reject the non-existent. It is a realization…and is only considered rejection by those whose minds still are attached to belief rather than reality itself.

            That being said, I do not reject the idea that other intelligent life must exist elsewhere in existence. If it evolved here, it can evolve elsewhere.

          • Grundune

            I think I’m seeing puberty. I’ll give you 40 years and then see if you can think outside the box.

            Why should it be an ability to comprehend anything you say?

          • Kevin A

            I bet you see that all the time.

          • Grundune

            You lose.

          • Kevin A

            Not even close.

          • Grundune

            No, you lose the bet that I see it all the time.

          • Kevin A

            I was not serious…just Following your facetiousness

          • Grundune

            Got it.

          • psychicbloodbrother

            Its not about winning or losing, it is about the pursuit of the truth. Don’t waste too much time in these foolish arguments or you also become a fool. Pride and arrogance shield people from the truth. There is no spoon.

          • Kevin A

            To pursue the truth you need to acknowledge facts first. Religion discards the facts and replaces facts with faith. That is plain delusion…pure and simple. Its dangerous actually.

          • psychicbloodbrother

            You’re absolutely right in your first sentence. However you are claiming something in the second sentence that cannot be proven or disproved. By definition we all take things on faith for that very reason. Your reasoning fails when it projects your delusion on others and makes a false claim. Faith is a matter of the heart not of the mind, don’t conflate the two it exposes your ignorance. Yes, we agree that it could be dangerous either way you look at it, but it depends on what you do with it. Ask yourself if what you are doing is on the side of creation or destruction.

          • Kevin A

            Try looking inside the box first. That means getting an non-secular education. Actually learning advanced mathematics, physics and or cosmology. None of which you posses the ability to understand..obviously.

          • Grundune

            Obviously, but then the answers to the questions, where did I come from, why am I here and where am I going, can be understood by folks from all educational backgrounds.

          • Kevin A

            That is because they are arbitrary questions that do not have a singular answer. The “why” does not exist in this context. Only confused people need ask a question such as that. You are searching for meaning where there exists none. This is where the yearning feeling originates. The “why you are here” is your own sole responsibility…It’s your life to live…your choice alone! Even “god” can’t live your life for you, and it’s not the devils fault you are a bad person…its your own responsibility.

            To understand how you got here… You would have to know and consider every event that ever happened causing you to be here, which stretches out into the infinite, which is nature itself…perpetuity. People seem to have an impossible time imagining the infinite. People only tend to comprehend finite things, probably because their lives are finite in nature. They don’t want to grapple with anything they cannot understand or imagine if they are no longer a part of it’s existence. It scares people. The fear of illusion is real.

            Why do you exist? The same reason why perpetuity exists. It does not require reasoning, but rather a mere endless sequence of events. It is a mathematical certainty that life exists…there is no chance involved..just where and when…not why. The same reason why 1+1=2…Either things exist…or not.

          • Grundune

            Amazing, you are evaluating the answers without knowing what they are. It is better to learn of something before judging it.

          • Kevin A

            That’s because the answer you are looking for is non-existent. You’ll never find it…and God is not the answer to anything. It simply begs more questions.

          • Grundune

            You are wrong, I already got the answer. Until you get the answer for yourself, your pride will require you to fight against receiving further wisdom which will prevent you from getting the answer. Humility or teachableness is the antidote.

          • Kevin A

            And you are saying you need a deity to decide the meaning of your life for you because you can’t figure it out for yourself.

          • Grundune

            God is smarter than the both of us put together, so I feel it is important to get His input. Having evaluated it, I find it compelling and worth the trouble to get His confirmation. Having received His confirmation I can now press forward without spinning my wheels about the meaning of life.

          • Kevin A

            God is merely a concept. Its not real.

          • Kevin A

            So the very element of division should be embraced? Why? Why not embrace your fellow man without all the delusions that create the divisions in thought and mind?
            Love your neighbor and forget stupid belief systems, and an enemy will not exist to love!

          • Grundune

            Liberals believe that if you eliminate economic disparity there will be peace and harmony. Other groups believe if you eliminate racism, genderism, patriotism, etc there will be peace and harmony. You believe that if ideological disparity is eliminated there will be peace and harmony.

            There is one who believes that if humans didn’t have free
            agency there would be no problems at all.

            Get in line, Kevin. There are just as many stupid solutions as there are problems afflicting humanity. There is nothing special about yours. In fact, your solution is just your justification for your inability of recognize truth and cleave unto it.

          • Kevin A

            “You believe that if ideological disparity is eliminated there will be peace and harmony.”

            No I do not believe in absolute harmony. Harmony only ensues out of chaos. But I do believe the world would be a better place without ideological disparity, economic disparity, gender disparity…or any disparity. How could it not be better?

          • Grundune

            First of all you aren’t going to turn humans into ideological robots programmed to think alike. Second you can’t destroy competing opinions that lead to discussions and arguments and worse. There is nothing wrong with wanting a better world, just remember that’s what Karl Marx claimed he wanted too and look what happened.

            Better work on improving yourself and preparing for the inevitability of your death. Just in case…

          • Kevin A

            ..

      • Kevin A

        Name 1 piece of hard evidence.

        • Grundune

          I don’t know what your definition of “hard” evidence is, but try this:

          Step outside on a clear night, look around you and up at the sky and behold a universe that doesn’t have the capability to create itself.

          • Kevin A

            That is a fallacy. It could as easily just as always been there. There is no end to space or time. That indicates perpetuity, which means it could not have been created. That which is infinite requires no creation or creator, only endless time and space, to which all available evidence is directed. Saying a god created it is just hazarding a guess. It was the GOD paradigm that was created by human intelligence, which evolved.

          • Grundune

            You said you wanted evidence and when it is given to you, you labeled it a fallacy. Again, evidence is not PROOF therefore it is not a fallacy. One can draw incorrect conclusions from evidence but the evidence itself is NOT a fallacy.

            The fact that you admit that the universe is there begs the question, how? Since God won’t allow a proof of His existence, there will be many competing theories as to how the universe came into being. But no proof.

            I guess, “It was always there”, is a competing theory, but not a very interesting one. Sounds like something out of the dark ages. But if you are happy with that, at least you’re happy.

          • Kevin A

            So tell me how you ascertain:

            “Step outside on a clear night, look around you and up at the sky and behold a universe that doesn’t have the capability to create itself.”

            Why? Because it was never created….thats why. You can only see a small portion of the Milky Way galaxy, which is not the universe. You need to give your head a shake and learn some facts.

            Sounds like something out of the dark ages? You mean like most all religion literally was?

          • Grundune

            So your premise is that the universe was never created. If it was never created, what am I seeing? It’s obviously there. How did it get there? Is it on loan?

          • Kevin A

            Just because you see it does not mean that a being created it…you need to imagine that concept up first.

          • Kevin A

            The fallacy is omnipotent creationism in any form or anything that requires that false premise of truth.

          • Grundune

            That is your opinion, which is up against a lot of evidence that you refuse to acknowledge and supported by nothing except a lot of conjecture and day dreaming by SciFi types.

          • Kevin A

            alot of evidence (all) comes from a book…thats it!

          • Grundune

            Kevin, when you arrived on this planet, you were being given an opportunity to be clothed in a mortal body and begin a learning experience of predetermined length. The objective of your Creator, who placed you here, was for you to have eternal life.

            Why? Because you asked for the opportunity to be like your Father while you were growing up in His presence. You agreed to have your memories of your former life veiled while you are on earth for the purposes of the test.

            You have been and will yet be provided with clues that help you choose right over wrong and discover your truth identity and relationship to your Creator. You have also been provided with earthly parents, teachers, friends, scripture, prophets and others who have provided you with information for you to evaluate and decide what is true and what is not.

            You have also been provided with a Savior, who atoned for your sins thus creating a process called repentance which allows you to be cleansed of sin one of the prerequisites to achieve that thing you asked for before coming here.

            All that you can see, touch and feel He created and all that you can’t see, touch and feel, he has created. “Created” in this case means “organized” as in “see, there is matter unorganized, let us create a world upon which these may dwell…”.

            Everything testifies that there is a God, even the fact that we can blind ourselves to it and develop our own theories as to why we are here, where did we came from and what will we become.

            It is what it is, Kevin. I’d be happy to answer your questions, but arguing can become somewhat of a bore.

          • Kevin A

            The evidence you refer to refutes creation rather than supporting the theory.

          • Kevin A

            There is no tangible evidence…you even admit to that. I am a realist. I’m not subjecting my life unto the subjective imaginations of archaic dogma, and govern my senses via that which does not provide tangibility to reality. What is real is the here and now. There is no “after” Both the past and future are manifested from the present moment. The present is the after.

          • Kevin A

            What you gave me is not evidence. Its conjecture.

      • Kevin A

        Sorry? You should be for spreading delusion like the disease it is.

        • psychicbloodbrother

          Are you sure that you are not engaging in psychological projection? How can you be sure?

          • Kevin A

            Yeah..OK.

            Yes I’m am quite sure that the entire god delusion was originally caused by that very thing…the archaic emotional inability to process reality without without the aid of a psychological spagetti monster.

            In biblical terms you could say…it is not a sin to call a sin a sin.

          • psychicbloodbrother

            You didn’t answer the question. Is there a purpose for your negativity or are you just wasting everyone’s time ranting and raving? Why do you get up in the morning?

          • Kevin A

            What negativity? Be specific if you want a specific answer

          • Kevin A

            Usually to live my life…what kind of a dumb question is that? Why does anybody?

          • Kevin A

            It was a loaded question, and I will not cooperate with that.

          • psychicbloodbrother

            Precisely, because its the answer that leads to a real discussion which you are incapable of having. Proglodyte.

      • Kevin A

        You mean evidence that he once existed. Big difference

        • Grundune

          Once existed? When you are in possession of the truth you will know that He still very much exists.

          • Kevin A

            I’ve read the book..I can appreciate most of the wisdom…unless it involves anything to do with creationism or omnipotence. those parts are assumed and is false doctrine.

          • Grundune

            “…those parts are assumed and is false doctrine.” Where’s your evidence that they are assumed and are false doctrine? You speak as if you have proof, but we both know that there is no proof and you have precious little evidence on your side.

            Your theory that the universe wasn’t created would be more believable if it didn’t exist. Yet it does. You have zero evidence to support your “wasn’t created theory” and yet you expect others to believe you when you insinuate that God or whatever you deem to call him, doesn’t exist.

            Your adamant refusal to consider the possibility of the existence of God is illogical, Mr. Spock.

          • Kevin A

            IN books..yes

  • Kevin A

    A simple man believes anything, but a prudent man gives thought to his steps. (Pr 14:15)

    It is not good to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and miss the way.
    These are good quotes, but have nothing to do with religion of god…

  • Kevin A

    Religion is the only medium to which arguements occur, where both parties squabble endlessly upon the premis of truth that is based upon pure delusion. None are correct. There is no evidence for any god’s existence. There is no evidence for the existence of anything outside the 4 dimensions of the physical universe. There is no evidence that a soul exists. There is no theism that exists that has benn proven to be true…yet…they argue aimlessly and relentlessly dividing society into groups (cults), even on the global scale.
    Though nothing can be proven, every religion claims absolute truth and wisdom via assymilation of proven human ideas, and dismisses actual evidence concerning reality if the evidence is contrary to creationism.

    ALL ARE WRONG

    They have been the bane of intelligence for 1000’s of years…killing, witch hunting, enslaving, stoning, burning, libeling, stealing, persecuting the other, deluding themselves and causing ALL the divisions among humanity. Even to this day we see it as the most prevalent danger in the world, manifested in the senario of the brainwashed Muslim VS the brainwashed Christian.

    EVOLVE ALREADY.

    • Grundune

      Yawn… Too much sophistry already. Don’t need anymore. You’ve chosen your theory. Don’t expose your sloppy thinking by trying to explain it. Just state it as quickly and arcane as you can and we will all agree you are beyond brilliant.

      • Kevin A

        Really that is your only retort to the truth? I guess its fitting given the source.

        • Grundune

          Okay, why should I believe you over anyone else, even Joseph Smith who you brought up. Neither of you can prove your declarations.

          • Kevin A

            That’s just it…you can “believe” whatever you want. Reality is the way it is regardless of what anyone “believes”.

          • Grundune

            Faith is belief in things that are not seen, but which are true. Or in your case which are reality.

          • Kevin A

            Yes I have faith I will not die in my sleep tonight. I also have faith the earth will not be utterly destroyed by the god delusion.

          • Grundune

            People who believe are playing the odds. Faith in something like you are describing would require confirmation from… ahem… the Holy Ghost.

            Faith that I’m familiar with is confirmation that what a prophet of God has declared is true (reality), not that a particular event will transpire at a particular time.

            However tomorrow’s lottery number would be nice.

      • Kevin A

        There is nothing sloppy in the observation of reality and living in the moment. Try it sometime.

        • Grundune

          “Observation of reality”, “living in the moment”, oh please. You sound like those guys that use to say, “dude” all the time. Pack up the clichés and rent a storage unit.

          • Kevin A

            Gather up all the religious brainwashing bullcrap books and put them in this storage unit you refer to and drop it in the Mariana Trench. Then you can go pilgrim walk hundreds of miles through the desert to hang with those freaks you bash their heads against the wall over in Israel…

          • Grundune

            All you are doing is revealing your ignorant, preconceived and incorrect notions about what you think I know. You are shooting in the dark blindfolded. And you are so concerned about only believing reality.

          • Kevin A

            Ignorant? pfft.

            “your ignorant, preconceived and incorrect notions about what you think I know.”

            State your non-secular scientific qualifications if you have any if that’s the case. I happen to be an Civil Engineer.

            Get a non-secular scientifically based education. After that what you “believe” might very well change, and would have an idea about what is actually ignorant. Either that or state your qualifications and provide some Tangible observable evidence for your beliefs not written or created by human beings.

          • Grundune

            As I said, a college degree isn’t a prerequisite to wisdom and that’s all knowledge created by human beings anyway.
            Allow me to restate it. THERE IS NO EMPIRICAL PROOF. So your pressing me for one so you can evaluate it like a mathematical proof, isn’t going to happen.
            That doesn’t mean you can’t come to know divine truth. You just can’t prove it like a mathematical theorem. There is a really huge roadblock in front of you on your way to discovering this truth. It’s a roadblock called pride. “When men are learned they think they are wise.” Pride in scholarship won’t matter to me or you in 100 years, but discovering why we were sent here and acting upon it, will.
            As I have grown in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, His truths have become every bit as tangible as scientific proofs.

          • Kevin A

            “As I said, a college degree isn’t a prerequisite to wisdom and that’s all knowledge created by human beings anyway.”

            Wisdom is not inherent like you think. The knowledge of the forces of nature is what engineering requires. These things are observed and measured…they are not made by anything at all. Human beings created intelligent design. We evolve intelligence, we are not made by it.

          • Grundune

            I didn’t say wisdom is inherent nor do I think wisdom is inherent.
            As for the theory of intelligent design, that is also man made. I prefer to receive wisdom from the source, unfortunately you discard the existence of the source out of hand. Not very wise, Kevin.

          • Kevin A

            You cannot discard that which does not exist.

          • Kevin A

            We live in a world where the fear of illusion is real. So you cling to the past to deny and confuse what is ideal.

          • Grundune

            Not my world. I get confirmation before I accept anything as truth.

          • Kevin A

            So you talk directly with God then and he confirms it for you…I see

          • Grundune

            Pretty much. But a lot of praying with real intent and a sincere heart, a lot of putting into practice His commandments, study and more praying. Seems God knows better when I’m ready for His wisdom than I do. BTW that promise can be found in…shutter…the bible, James 1:5-6.

      • Kevin A

        I’ll tell you who was brilliant…Joe Smith…he knew exactly how to brainwash gullible people.

  • Kevin A

    The constitution was was the only intelligent design. It was meant to protect the innocent against insane people like yourself…too bad it opened up the theistic roof to a rainstorm of alternate delusions like the ones perpetrated by Grundune.

  • Kevin A

    That is not true. Colors have no opposite. They are distinct.

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