Wednesday, July 3, 2013

Students DESTROY NSA Recruiters Over Illegal Spying and Lies (Listen)

Activist Post

When NSA recruiters went to the University of Wisconsin earlier this week to pitch language students on working for the agency, they got more than they bargained for.

The informed students turned the question-and-answer session into a hearing. On trial were the NSA's lies, their legality, and how they define "adversary".

The students recorded audio of the exchange on an iPhone proving that the language-analyst NSA recruiters were left tongue-tied.

"I'm surprised that for language analysts you're incredibly imprecise with your language," grad student Madiha Tahir charged when they failed to define what constitutes an adversary.

"What you're selling us is untrue" she added. "We also know that the NSA took down brochures and fact sheets after the Snowden revelations because those fact sheets had severe inaccuracies and untruths in them -- so how are we supposed to believe what you're saying?"

Another student directly challenged the NSA's morality for using the "globe as their playground" and then partying at the office with co-workers. She then challenges them to become whistleblowers because the truth will ultimately prevail.


"Given the fact that we have been lied to as Americans, given the fact that fact sheets have been pulled down because they clearly had untruths in them, given the fact that Clapper and Alexander lied to Congress...Is being a good liar a qualification to work for the NSA?" Tahir asks.

These young students forced the NSA recruiters to claim, in a seemingly desperate defense, that they were not actually there "representing the NSA as an agency."

Clearly the people have questions that aren't being addressed by their representatives, and a much larger debate is needed.  However, it'd be much more productive if these kids get to question the NSA leadership instead of our blackmailed politicians.

Listen to the whole exchange below:



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67 comments:

admin said...

Where do you guys find this stuff? Great job

Anonymous said...

N-azis S-talking A-mericans

Anonymous said...

I thought there were only a few people(like myself) that were "awake" to what is going on with this agenda. My own personal courage has been fully restored. My most humble, "THANK YOU!", to the students and faculty of University of Wisconsin. Have you ever wondered why college students are the first to "protest"? It is because they are there to be educated, and, to learn. When caring instructors give their all, they produce outstanding citizens. I salute.^^-

Anonymous said...

Amazing!! Awesome, I'm so proud of everyone of those students for standing their ground!

Anonymous said...

I hope these are journalism students. If not, they need full-ride scholarships as such!

Casey said...

Very cool!

Anonymous said...

Of course it won't play for me

Anonymous said...

Yes thank you students. This is on my mind 24/7 and no one else seems to consider these crimes against us. Awesome.

Anonymous said...

People are waking up. Let us keep the momentum.

Anonymous said...

hmmm
no link
nothing..
nothing on youtube either...gone!
POOF!

Anonymous said...

This is why they're madly trying to control the internet. The kids learn the truth at home, and a skill in college, thereby ending the compartmentalization that has allowed tyrannical organizations such as the NSA to recruit.

"Do any of you kids want a cool job spying on people?! It's fun!"
"You mean spying on others like you do to us?"
"Uhhhh..."
"NO WE DON'T"

Anonymous said...

That was so hot - I smiled and giggled the entire time. Good job to the students, and you NSA recruiters should be ashamed (if you are still capable of that emotion...).

Heidi sebastion said...

OH! WHy is it GONE??? BOO!

Anonymous said...

The audio link is still up. Listen at

https://soundcloud.com/madiha-1/students-question-the-nsa-at

Anonymous said...

Wow! I wish congress (little "c") had this much chutzpah. Hats off to University of Wisconsin students.

Anonymous said...

It seems the recruiters were unable to answer a legitimate questions with any sort of rational answer. I applaud these students. Truth is the light that will shine over these sorry peeping toms. They can't defend there actions when there actions are those of criminals. Also, the fact journalist's in mainstream media fail to ask these type questions leads me to believe they may not know the definition of there job as well

Hide Behind said...

WHO INVITED THEM?
Why were they invited.
This is what we called Informed Dissent years ago and in this case the students were superb.
Many Ececutive Branch Departments hire headhunting firms to gather recruits, some are part and parcel of University Staff(s) even admin
Be nice to know number of inquiry they received
Hard to beat the "RIDES PACKAGES" OF DHS CIA AND NSA OFFER PROMISING CANDIDATES..
The recruiters will not make same mistake at nnext site and the admin as they always do when anti establishment rears its head, beef security and stack halls with staff and other lackys.

Anonymous said...

Man oh Man....you could hear the terror in the NSA voices on this one.... Good Job to the students.... Thank you... NOTE: I hope you didn't sign an attendance roster at this event....

SunEast said...

America the beautiful… I miss you.
“There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of law and in the name of justice.”

SunEast said...

4th of July:

Did United States conquer the King of England? Did they burn London? The answer is, no; George Washington settled with London and the Crown by agreeing to pay a debt to the Crown with interest; incidentally, it was implemented by Alexander Hamilton (a Rothschild family member)
Now you understand why the supremacy clause was included in the Constitution, and why the enumerated powers under Article I, Section 8 begin with “the Congress shall have the Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, [and] to pay the Debts . . . of the United States. “ What debt? Was such a debt disclosed to “We the People” at the time of the adoption of the Constitution? Did the “people” actually voted on the Constitution, or only by the representatives of the states? Why doesn’t the Constitution begin with “We, the States”?
The answer is very straightforward: The United States was formed under a unified confession of judgment to the Crown of England – it is at its core, a debt guarantee, with the “claws” necessary to enforce it against the participating states. These “claws” were used with great force against the disobedient Southern States in the War Between the States to punish those who sought to use the rule of law in contravention with the orchestrated debt repayment mechanism.
Article VI of the Constitution (the last Article): “All debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.”
The founders who brought on this revolution, and who borrowed money from the King of England (who also loaned the money to King of France, who thereafter went bankrupt to his own demise) to engage in the revolution, managed to get the States to guarantee their debts for the revolution, and used this Article to make sure it held.

SunEast said...

Page 2
After July 4th 1776 the independence of the United States of America from Great Britain and its king was accomplished. After the exhausting fight was over and while structuring the new country was in process came a man name Alexander Hamilton, who served as the first secretary of the treasury and helped place the finances and credit of the new government on a sound footing. He became President Washington’s most influential adviser and engaged in a series of bitter quarrels with Thomas Jefferson over foreign policy, the scope of presidential power, and the direction of the American economy. Washington generally sided with Hamilton in these disputes, and Jefferson eventually left the Cabinet, convinced that Hamilton was a pernicious influence on the President.
Few people understand that Alexander Hamilton was an actual agent of The Rothschild family. Even fewer people know, or understand, that Hamilton married in to the Rothschild family, and therefore more than an agent he is actual family himself.
Today we have a more sophisticated version of yesterday’s central banking system, known as the Federal Reserve Bank. Thanks to the handiwork of subversion of Alexander Hamilton and the US Constitution, Americans are economic slaves to the Rothschild family. Americans…

SunEast said...

The Internet was invented by university students for freedom of speech globally...
Now the NSA wants to disgrace them!

Anonymous said...

way to go UWisc!

my 1st qtr at Ohio State, i took 17 hours, 4 of them an honors linguistics course. I pulled a 3.8 for the quarter and received a "survey" which was really a psych profile test.

School administrators said the survey went out to 1/4 of the freshman body, and oh, btw, the CIA is on campus recruiting.

I strongly believe that "survey" came from the CIA - people who do well in linguistics make great code breakers.

what irked me was that they wanted to do a sneak psych profile, without even telling me to my face they were looking to recruit me (if I passed some tests first). no, instead they just wanted me to take the test.

I dunno... it just felt so creepy to operate that way. no matter how exciting spy novels can be, the real men in black are just plain creepy - people who ooze hormones that warn they are off, in a serious way.

Anonymous said...

And of course James Crapper recently lied to Obama and Feinstein. Ooops, Nobama and Franken-stein or both notorious liars themselves.

Unknown said...

I bless the NSA to recruit hundreds and thousands of Assange, Snowden, Tice, Weber and etc...
Enough of them together may just be able to turn the table.

SunEast said...

Page 3
President Lincoln saw fit to enforce this union and this debt guarantee, and so, the illusion of federalism was crushed with the blood of millions, bringing the nation under martial law via Lincoln’s General Rule 100 (the Lieber Code) which remains in effect today. The proof of this proposition lies in the abnormalities that are present in the current system.

The mere placement of federal troops inside a the boundaries of a given state is martial law by definition, as understood under the Lieber Code; and the trappings of constitutionalism are merely the temporary protocols that can be used to execute control unless and until they become ineffective, in which case, courts-martial can be employed with dispatch to the surprise of the average Americans. The National Defense Authorization Act (the NDAA) is consistent with this understanding, where suddenly, habeas- corpus, rights to counsel, rights to know of your accusation, rights to refuse to self-incriminate, rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure and rights to confront your accusers all disappear at the whim of the “President.”
Article I, Section 8, clause 5 provides that the Congress shall have the power “to coin Money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures.” Article I, Section 9, clause 7 provides that “no Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.” Article I, Section 10, clause 1 provides that “no State shall . . . make anything but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.”
The debt obligation expressed in the Constitution has long since been replaced with emergency orders (beginning under Lincoln), orders in bankruptcy (under FDR), and money that has been re-expressed in Federal Reserve Notes, off-the-books interest rates, and debt instruments disguised as currency, which are not created by the Treasury, but by a private group to manage the enslavement of the American people, and to manage the non-stop stream of wealth transfer that constitutes day-to-day life in America.
To be succinct: Americans do not live under the “Constitution.” Americans are not “free.” Americans have no “rights.” And this condition existed long before GWB or Obama – their “Presidencies” simply represent the fist of tyranny being deployed against Americans in order to move “the people” from semi-affluent slave, to third-world slave. The words “democracy” and “communism” are only brainwashing idioms. “Republican” is a word used to differentiate from a one party governance to a “two step dance”… Get it?

And you may ask who does the Crown answers to?

Here’s a quote by Baron Nathan Mayer de Rothschild:

“I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the British Empire on which the sun never sets. The man that controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.”

This is the art of not owning it but have total control of it.

The movie “Enemy of States” is now an ongoing documentary proven by Ed Snowden.

Anonymous said...

@SunEast No the internet was actually created by the Department Of Defence and was originally called: ARPNET.

Unknown said...

The public was first introduced to the concepts that would lead to the Internet when a message was sent over the ARPANet from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), after the second piece of network equipment was installed at Stanford Research Institute (SRI). Packet switched networks such as ARPANET, Mark I at NPL in the UK, CYCLADES, Merit Network, Tymnet, and Telenet, were developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s using a variety of protocols. The ARPANET in particular led to the development of protocols for internetworking, in which multiple separate networks could be joined together into a network of networks.

Unknown said...

Detailed design of the Internet was conducted at Stanford during 1974 and implementation started in 1975 at Stanford, BBN and University College London. After that, a number of other institutions, notably MIT, SRI, ISI, UCLA, NDRE, engaged heavily in the work.

Anonymous said...

" The truth will set you free" .............LOL
Everything about the United States's political history cited by Suneast is true .....
Now what I want to know is when will the Rothchilds be put on trial by the 99% of this world ?

Anonymous said...

I wonder if nsa recruitment will be down this year? If only we had more students being tapped in all industries standing up and questioning the liars like these fine people did, they might just turn the tables on how industries operate.
Great to see there are still some universities cultivating personal thought process instead of indoctrination and programming of students.

Anonymous said...

And that's why we now have 100,000 Russian troops on our soil to help with "some up coming event" EPA Region III

Oh how carefully they have planned.
a tangled web they have woven.

Anonymous said...

Even before this came out, several members of Congress implied that they had been blackmailed into voting for both the PATRIOT Act and the bank bailouts.

Just like Hoover's FBI blackmail machine.

Anonymous said...

Fantastic find, AP!!! Thanks so much for sharing!

Anonymous said...

Obama ordered government workers to not read the Snowden documents. They would be reading secrets they did not have access to. If everyone emailed the Snowden documents then the NSA would not be able to read them.

Anonymous said...

Russian soldiers bleed and die just like U.N. soldiers do. Being a true blooded American I would die before bending to the whim of a dictator. Our brothers and sisters at arms feel the same way. "Don't tred on me" or I will defensivly strike to protect family property and state.

Anonymous said...

Internet explorer sucks ! They're always blocking something. How many times I'm trying to buy something, go to the page to complete the order and " internet explorer can't show this page " !

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, you would have to shoot a lot of Russian soldiers before you got to the ones that are really responsible for corrupting our country . They're hideing in the caves they prepared for a day like this that they knew was coming .

Anonymous said...

Today I am very proud to be an alumni of the University of Wisconsin at Madison.

I am especially happily surprised by this, because Madison is an Obama stronghold to the utmost degree, and most of my friends who still live there also still support him and are totally asleep.

Even way back when I was in school there, the only place you could find a professor who was not a Marxist was in the business or engineering depts., and maybe a couple in economics.

Anonymous said...

Good job! The irony of someone with (at least) an Arab name drilling the NSA spooks bites like one of those exploding ISreali bullets on a Palestinian youth. What is it about Americans that makes them so very dumb and utterly servile? It appears that the Middle East is the leading block on democracy around the world now. Take that, NSA "experts"!

Anonymous said...

Good for them. I'm sure some of the NSA people think they're preserving democracy and wear blinders so they can stay comfortably brainwashed, outwardly and inwardly. But it sounds to me like the NSA has a lot of very dangerous fanatics who will do anything to anybody and justify it.

Anonymous said...

It will be Muslim Americans who will stand for the rights of all Americans.

Anonymous said...

"as long as there is a requirement..." = just following the orders. hahahaha

Anonymous said...

Ah, this gives me hope!

Anonymous said...

"Nothing is covered that shall not be revealed" Truth always reveals lies, it takes good listening to perceive lies.

Anonymous said...

I have a somewhat restored faith in professors now, Someone has woke these kids up, and ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME!!

Anonymous said...

"...it's a job for liars"

Kudos to these well informed students for effectively putting these bumbling buffoon Hall Monitors of the corp/state in their place.

Anonymous said...

I want to be a rat, how can get that job I like to watch,listen and then report.I would love it.Being a rat is good

Anonymous said...

"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, foreign power, or secret society, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them."
Tona2009
http://tona2009.rallycongress.com/1357/transparency-loyalty-in-government--amendment-aka-tona-2009/

Anonymous said...

Critical thinking...it's not completely dead. The UW at Madison has a young person with the light bulb on, imagine that. Start the revolution already.

Anonymous said...

Seems like smart kids are the "NEW threat" to NSA's existence. These kids are the future patriots of America. Truth and knowledge is a deadly weapon to liars, subversives, and traitors to our great Republic.

If you work for the NSA you are a subversive traitor, period. It you are spying on American citizens, you are a subversive traitor, period. If you are taking a salary derived from taxpayer money (which you are if you work for the NSA) you are a subversive traitor, period.

So, the NSA is a threat to the Republic by attempting to destabilize the privacy and freedom of the American Way of Life. Those are terrorist's goals, are they not? So, we the taxpayers are paying to support a terror organization. The money was approved by Congress against the will of the people, Congress is another terror group. Seems like America has many terror supporters in power positions.

Whatever the agenda of these subversive, domestic threat organizations, they are unified in their focus - the destruction of the Constitution and our American Democracy.

July 4th has a very hollow meaning due to the activities of these traitors.

Anonymous said...

Check it out.

The Unites States is a British Colony. There was the 'original' Constitution and then there is the one in force now. 1817 was the year it was changed.

Anonymous said...

The recruiters seemed to be there just to recruit new employees, not justify their agencies actions. The recruiters just follow orders what they do is not a matter for personal interpretation irregardless of what oath they took if any.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...11:41

"It will be Muslim Americans who will stand for the rights of all Americans."

Oh ok, thank you for clearing that up.

Anonymous said...

On one hand I am definitely pro 4th Amendment etc. On the other, I can't help but notice how quickly our technology is displacing our rights and re-writing our Constitution. For example, during 9/11 some people actually believe holograms hit the twin towers followed by controlled explosions. This of course led to the release of the pre-written Patriot act which usurped many of our rights today and actually ushered in the NSA. Then you have drone warfare, NSA spying and what I fear may be next, a biological germ warfare. Soon they will have cloaking available to ground soldiers. Where does this madness stop?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous es... you are being more closely watched. lol

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't anyone use the word TREASON. When a Public Servant violates his Oath to the Constitution that's TREASON. When a private company co operates with a federal agency to violate The Law of the Land that's called Conspiracy in TREASON. Timidness is the price we pay for tyranny. Patrick J. O'Brien

Anonymous said...

I love the way these students went after those recruiters. Make no mistake,if the NSA decided to go after you or I on a whistleblower vendetta, they would be 10 times more viscious and unrelenting.

Anonymous said...

Why cant we download this, whats up with the super-suck media player?

Anonymous said...

To the girl that spoke... PLEASE MARRY ME!!!! AWESOME JOB!!!! The NSA people were actually nervous!!! WE ARE AWAKE!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Army of followers, sea of pus.

Nicole Lynn Major said...

THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU, Students for SPEAKING UP and SPEAKING OUT!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!

zzipster said...

Awesome! Hold their feet to the fire!!

Anonymous said...

I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

Anonymous said...

this is utterly beautiful :)

Unrecruitable said...

"The pioneers of warless world are the youth who refuse military service." - Albert Einstein

Allison said...

I'm sorry, I guess I will never understand why American's don't mind being on camera at the bank, at the store, at any government building, at the subway, at the airport - but get your phone number on a list and your pants are in a knot. Seems to me there's a little bit of hyprocrisy going on.

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