Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Holder: Obama Can Kill Citizens on US Soil Without Due Process

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Note: important update can be found HERE.

Joe Wright
Activist Post

Battlefield USA just ratcheted up one notch with comments made by Attorney General Eric Holder to Senator Rand Paul. As the indefinite detention provision for American citizens within the NDAA as stated in sections 1021 and 1022 is still being hard fought in many states, drone use within U.S. borders is still being contested and the FAA has yet to release a concrete guide as to how many licenses have been granted for US flights, AG Holder would not rule out a drone strike against an American citizen on U.S. soil if he were to "imagine an extraordinary circumstance." Worse yet, the nation's leading legal adviser said unequivocally that it would be constitutional.
“It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States.”
 Paul disagreed:
“The U.S. Attorney General’s refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening – it is an affront to the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans,” he said in a statement. (Source)
Holder's statements also come at a time when civil libertarians and government officials alike are not clear about the scope of the drone program and the government's legal justification for such actions abroad or at home.

The architect of the so-called "targeted killing playbook," John Brennan, has called drone strikes, "ethical, and just" while claiming that there hadn't been a single collateral death in Pakistan from drone strikes. This is just one example of who is in control of ensuring that our civil liberties and human rights are protected. Eric Holder is another.

Brennan's playbook seeks to exempt drone strikes and to reassure the public that the greatest care is being taken when they decide in weekly White House meetings who should be part of the Disposition Matrix, being murdered outside the court of law . . . including U.S. citizens. So far, this has been discussed as actions taken abroad. But, as Holder stated in response to Rand Paul's question of the legality and president's authority to conduct strikes on American soil, he hedged by stating
that Paul’s question was “entirely hypothetical [and] unlikely to occur,” but cited the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks as the type of incidents that might provoke such a response. 
“Were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the particular facts and circumstances before advising the President on the scope of his authority,” he concluded.
As we should know quite well, "hypothetical" situations are a particular specialty of the U.S. government with 9/11 itself having so many holes in the official version that they likely have not all been completely identified yet. Operation Fast and Furious, on the other hand, is now a solid example of a contrived program designed for political ends, with Holder himself being a prime architect of the plot and cover up. He was actually found in contempt of Congress for failing to provide requested documents and was believed by many to be heading for resignation. This is the man whose advice we are still subjected to. (Source)

Holder has proven himself to once again be an absolute menace to liberty and freedom. His words are meant to pave the way for a discussion in the public mind about what might be acceptable. Perhaps we can just hope for a hypothetical situation never to arise that would unleash armed drones on any American suspected, charged, and sentenced to death outside of their constitutional right to due process, but if even recent history serves as instruction, to do so we would have to be the most gullible nation the world has ever seen.

Here is the full screen capture of the letter from Eric Holder to Senator Rand Paul  posted by Sherrie Questioning All:

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Justin Doody said...

Drones are a bad idea for civil freedom!

Anonymous said...

The whole group of them is one big menace.

Hide Behind said...

Just what did Holder actually SAY?
read the lead in and then read what was asked and what the words answere were.
Now think if some 10 years from now when Holder is a rich white haired retired grandfattherly type if in some court if he agreed that Obama had thei right to assassiinate citizenry with drone weaponry how could he answer.
These men be not fools Paul the make believe and holder don' t quote me please each doing their pattto help each other from any consequence of what they both nois to come.
Blood on the. Ground and some will be Collateral Damage not citizenry.
PAUL the makr belive he amounts to more than a pimple on his old mans ass will say I tried to stop it and holder can say he did not agree personaly only hypotheticly.

Anonymous said...

Holder and Obama are like too pees in a pot. Hard to tell which is which. Both serving the same puppet masters.

abinico said...

'imagine' is the key word here.

Anonymous said...

I took a picture,
I drove a van.
I wrote on a piece of paper.
I paid cash for coffee,

I qualify as a suspected terrorist and am eligible to be "droned".

My neighbor is in a coma and on life support. I think he isn't eligible at the moment but his wife, who doesn't have a Facebook account and asked some questions about pollution, clearly is.

I think it's comforting to know that there is actually a way to avoid being eligible to be rubbed out from the sky, except as being collateral damage, that is.

Andrew said...

For goodness sake ! - Homeland Drones strikes "constitutional" !!!? - - Does giving something a legal name make it OK, all of a sudden?
How about legally identifying Mr Holder and Obama and their conniving, psychopathic friends "cancerous, murderous pests" - same sort of thing as a rodent infestation - and so justify poisoning the lot of them - legally, of course. ?

Anonymous said...

If you work at one of these "drone" manufacturing companies, YOU are responsible for any and ALL deaths caused by these insidious machines and their blood is on YOUR hands! YOU are working for a tyrannical guberment that is about to wage war on its people. I hope your pay check is worth it because YOU will have to live with yourselves knowing you and your work was directly responsible for the murder of US citizens on US soil. One can only hope that a drone YOU built is responsible for the murder of of your loved ones. Then it might sink in that no job is worth the fruits your labor has produced.

Anonymous said...

unconstitutional or not, the US military has killed americans here enough times to scare me
and if US soldiers won't do, foreign fighters are ready
and our vets know this
maybe they will all run out of bullets
or make their own

Paul Panza said...

Sounds like the Civil War for the USA has officially begun to me. So anything we real patriots do to overthrow the criminal federal government is in our best interests? Real patriots are being disappeared at this very moment, others are being assigned their place on His Kill List. Soon drones and satellites will have US all tracked 24/7/365, no where to run, no where to hide !

Hide Behind said...

The time for action will never come on a full nation basis; So if its a Revolution some want, dream on, for you have been asleep for far too long.
You do not even know where or who to begin with, do you?
I suggest you look at Mr. Cartalicci's new article on this site.
And study even gurther what the REAL Miltia have been concerned about.
Either that or keep kissing your military heros ass and playing with your fn black gun.

Anonymous said...

Can drones see inside a house with an aluminum roof (Unilock) or aluminum siding?

I believe drones are being shot down in foreign countries but I don't know if it's by the govt (would have larger ordinance) or by citizenry (would have smaller ordinance).

Anonymous said...

The Obama Democrats and their escalation of the Bush drone wars are hypocrites. The only crowd that loves drones more than they do are the Republicans. The political system in the USA is a complete sham. The proof is in the policies and laws that have come from Congress/Senate and Republican/Democrats in the past decade. Drones simply prove what many are too afraid to believe.

Anonymous said...

As someone else basically pointed out, agencies in our government have been assassinating Americans for years, off the record, of course. They got away with JFK, RFK, and MLK, so they believe they can get away with murdering anyone they want and if it is obvious to intelligent thinkers that the assassination was on the orders of the elite mafia then they don't particularly mind because that serves as a warning. What we need is to rapidly expand the enlightenment so that most lose their fear of these kinds of tactics and find ways to break away from the Matrix - both small and large changes that are consciously chosen each and every day.

Anonymous said...

Ted Cruz Reads Letter From Alamo At the Paul Filibuster

Anonymous said...

It is, of course, the Federal Reserve, not so much the President, that wishes to reserve to itself the right to eliminate any American who threatens to abolish that predatory system. It's all part of a stepped-up occupation of the United States by this foreign cabal of oligarch bankers.

Anonymous said...

It is getting pretty crazy. The drones, the purchase of ammo, the domestic tanks, the FEMA camps, the no hesitation targets. The tyrants are preparing for riots, civil unrest or revolution. They are preparing for something big and pushing for disarmament of the citizens.

The whole thing is going to blow.

Anonymous said...

Drones, like guns, are tools and can be used for good or evil. Drones might locate lost people or animals, drop supplies to stranded people or help predict weather.

It's the sick power-hungry criminals who misuse the tools that need to be eliminated.

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