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This is a great example of people calmly, rationally, and respectfully asserting their rights over their private property even when a police officer attempts to make it seem as though they have the right to not only enter private property but also handle private property without a warrant.
I believe that everyone should take this as a perfect example of how to deal with police. Clearly, these officers were familiar with the individuals filming and likely knew that they’d better get off their property and move along before they added to the already quite powerful complaint.
I also think it is worth noting that they said they didn’t need the supervisor to show up since they all work together. This is an often overlooked, but quite important point.
If you are expecting a supervisor to show up and publicly shame their buddies, you will be sorely disappointed. Unless you have time to kill, it is usually a better idea to just capture the events on camera for posterity and file a formal complaint with the internal affairs division of the police department or sheriff’s office.
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16 comments:
I'm not unsympathetic toward the cops. It's almost like a set up to record the cops, it does not seem to rise to the level of a situation that warrents such drama. I think the cops were pretty cool, the lady was not.
The lady has rights, acting cool or not, and she asserted her rights. Thew cops were wrong.
Woody, you are smacked out of your mind! That lady has more balls than you do!
The word 'Police'. Think about it for a second.
It's short for POLIC[y] E[nforcers].
And whose policies are they enforcing... their paymasters, the government.
This isn't an attack on the Police or the Government... however one only needs to open one's eyes to know something is seriously wrong with both... especially as both are supposedly meant to serve Joe Public.
The lady was doing her duty to assert her rights to be secure in her "personal effects, papers, and property." The problem with "Wood-brain" is the same old mentality of "if you're not doing anything wrong you won't mind us looking around." The pigs wanted to escalte but with a camera and a citizen knowing her rights, they thought better.If more citexens would stand up and "not take it any longer" we may get somewhere without violence, but I'm afraid the country is gone and "watering the liberty tree with blood and ..." is a memory :(
Looks like they have that suit in the bag.
Good job lady for standing up against such tyranny.
The cops were committing several crimes woody. I know that violent brindead criminal thugs behind badges is something sexy for you, but you can't gloss over crimial activity by using the word cool.
The vitrolic nonsense directed against Woody is a huge part of why 99% of Americans think so-called libertarians are just nuts.
And these libertarians will continue to wonder why they haven't managed to accomplish a damn thing politically.
After watching the Video, I understand Both sides of the story. Someone called the Police and Claimed these people were selling Guns...on their
Private Property or Not. If they had advertized they privately selling personal firearms is one thing. But having a Garage Sale, where you have what looks like several firearms hanging up with for sale tags on them. Don't you think that is a bit Odd? No Tag Sale I have Ever Been to had Guns for Sale hanging up like Children's Clothes. IF they had been trying to sell guns like at a Gun Show, it would have been Different. If they were selling Firearms without
a registered Dealers License, then I would have a problem with it. Because the Gang Banger Straw Purchase could happen. P.S. I also have firearms and had Garage Sales and NEVER would Put out my Guns in the Open like that. I do support their Right to Stand up for their Rights. BUT it still Looks Suspicious the way it appears... File a Complaint with Internal Affairs and See where it goes. Sounds also like some neighbors Didn't like them and turned them into the Police to Cause Trouble. The Police did handle it calmly and did leave.
The cops were def in the wrong, but the whole thing was nothing but a setup, in the time wasted of being an asshole and setting something up like this they could have been proactive to something of more importance. This little act will do nothing to help the current state of America, all it did was get someone a little attention on the internet.
selling guns at garage sale and the police had an anonymous lead? Prove it! If this was legal than a cop could go up to anyone and say anything he wished because he 'had information' or a 'tip'. Get it? Without proof, a cop could say we have a tip that armed terrorist are in your car and we are going to look for them in your car under the seat.... where does it end?
michael, the proof is with common sense, its obvious that they provide the tip to the cops themselves, why else would they have a camera already out and recording before the cop even steps a foot on their property, this was a set up, which makes them not any better than the cops. The government is corrupt by no doubt, but these people are just attention hungry ass holes.
I am a retired police officer. She is wrong and the cop is wrong. When you have a garage sale, there is a reasonable expectation that someone can walk onto your property and look at what you have for sale without an invite. The police officer was well within his rights to do this. Even her statement "This is private property." does not yet cause him to be in violation of her 4th Amendment rights. The exact point the encounter becomes unlawful for the police officer is when she asks him to leave and he does not comply. To add further clarity, had in the brief moment the officer was standing at the table, he saw something that indicated a crime was being committed, he would have had the right at that point to legally remain on her property and investigate the crime. Probable Cause is simply defined as a reasonable person believes that a crime has been, is being, or is about to be committed. She does not have an expectation to privacy for areas on her property she has opened to the public under the pretense of a "garage sale". Hope that clears things up.
For the retired cop above!! HAHAH WHATEVER MORON! Even if she had a garage sale,it (IS) HER PROPERTY, and she can tell ANYONE to get off HER PROPERTY that was NOT INVITED. And the cops LIED and clearly stated someone called and said they was selling GUNS. Retired cop or not, dont think for a minute with your the cops did it right attitude that just because he has a gun (paid for by property taxes) and a car paid for the same that he can just walk right on up SHOT GUN DRAWN and start going thru everything. HE LIED!! If he wanted to buy something, thenall he had to do was walk up like ever one else and look, and he DIDNT. It IS HER PROPERTY and CAN REFUSE ANYONE ACCESS TO IT, EVEN COPS. Hope that clears up YOUR retired cop mentality.
Here we go AGAIN with ANOTHER PHONY SITE that WONT POST IF (THEY) DONT LIKE WHAT YOU WROTE!!!
From the "supposed" Retired Cop to the anonymous moron above: First, don't think for one second you know me or know my values just because I was in law enforcement. Would it surprise you that up until Ron Paul bowed out, I was registered as a libertarian, so try and wipe a little prejudice out of your eyes. Second, apparently reading comprehension isn't your strong suite. Go back and try reading my response again and watch the video again. Since you're a little slow, I'll repeat. The cop committed UNLAWFUL TRESPASS when she asked him to move to the sidewalk and he refused. Just about every state's trespass law for your front yard requires you to ask the person to remove themselves. If they refuse, they are trespassing. When the cop walks up and starts looking at the stuff for sale, no one has said a word to him yet. Even as she blabbers on about private property, she still hasn't yet asked him to remove himself to the sidewalk. Again, based on the CONSTITUTION and case law, the cop can reasonably assume that the sale is open to the public and he doesn't even need a call or a complaint to do that so you are focusing on the wrong thing here and you don't even know what the heck you are talking about. Trust me. The cop didn't need a complaint because initially he was engaging in the same behavior as the other strangers, up until the time he was asked to leave. What if the cop approached under the pretext he was on his break and wanted to buy an airsoft gun for his kid? I guarantee you it wouldn't change a thing if he developed probable cause while he was there. Instead of blabbering about private property for so long, for all you libertarians that want to handle it the proper way, and here's your hint: What she should have have done is stop the cop before he approached the table and said, YOU are trespassing if you don't have probable cause to enter my property. I am the lawful owner of this property (or the lawful representative of the owner) and you need to leave my property immediately. If the cop continues, state again, "You are trespassing now because I have asked you to leave my property." If the officer refuses, file a trespass report. She just sounds like a whiny moron that really doesn't know her rights going on so long about private property. So anonymous moron above, next time a girlscout comes on your private property to knock on your front door to sell you cookies, you should call the cops on that little trespasser.
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