Saturday, November 13, 2010

When The Collapse Comes, Will FEMA Camps Look Like Club Med?

The collapse of American society occurs in early 2011.  The system was fundamentally headed toward this stunning unraveling for decades, but it took a multi-city nuclear "terror" attack on American soil to plunge the system into chaos.

Food, fuel, and medicine supply lines disappeared overnight and money quickly became useless.  It was every man for himself and there was little the government could do to stem the flow of anarchy and looting in the streets.

Roving gangs of armed thugs began to stalk suburban streets, ransacking homes for rations.  It is a time where everyone is gripped by fear and uncertainty.  Communications are temporarily jammed, forcing those with electricity or battery radios to be glued to emergency broadcast signals.  Reports of more bombs and street violence fill the airwaves.

You've just finished the last of your canned goods, water is no longer coming out of your tap, and the batteries are getting low in your car as you huddle to listen to the radio, refusing to turn it off for fear of missing important instructions.  You gaze into your family's terrified eyes and contemplate your dismal options.

The government announces one-time sweeps of neighborhoods to "rescue" desperate citizens from the anarchy and bring them to gathering centers or camps where they will be guaranteed food and security.  You've read articles and have seen movies about the nefarious nature of FEMA camps being described as prison internment camps -- and you remember post-Katrina New Orleans -- but what choice do you have?

You've exhausted your supplies, most of your neighbors already ran for the hills to stay with their extended family.  Now, you begin to hear the rumbling patrols of bandits coming up your street smashing into your neighbors' homes. Just then you hear a government chopper marking its landing.  The bandits duck and hide when they hear the helicopter, and the National Guard soldiers call out for survivors over the loudspeaker . . . . 

You feel relieved to be on the chopper safe and sound with your family and a few precious belongings.  You think to yourself, "This won't be so bad. Heck, they may even have TV to watch all the news of the unfolding chaos in safety, and at least we can use a toilet that flushes."  Upon arrival, you learn that the camps will be on lockdown 24/7 for the inhabitants' protection  -- at least until the tension dissipates.  

Nonetheless, your family is grateful to cram into one room with cots to bunk on, one chest to store your personal items, three square meals a day, and dorm-style bathrooms to share with floor mates.  You're happy to be assigned a job to feel useful during this time of crisis and to occupy your mind.  It's also nice to have the support and companionship of other refugees, and you scarcely have time or energy to reflect on the prison-like rules in the complex.

As time progresses, more people are rescued to the camp and a functioning mini-community takes form, all under the watchful eyes of armed soldiers.  The more time that passes, the more that free-thinking inhabitants begin to question how the government is still able to get food to the camps when there is such overwhelming disruption still displayed on the TV.  

Realizing that food is still being grown and processed somewhere, it appears that it must be calm and tranquil somewhere.  You begin to imagine beautiful farms with open corn fields, vegetable gardens, fresh milk, and swallows in the barn.  Suddenly, you remember what it's like to be a free human being where strenuous work on the farm to achieve self-sufficiency seems far more appealing than the strictly enforced rules and menial tasks at the compound.  You decide to pack the family to leave the compound and brave the wild unknown in search of independence.

However, the warden of the compound refuses to allow you to leave, as he's still convinced that it is far too dangerous to let anyone except armed soldiers to go off campus under his watch.  He claims that other camps have allowed people leave only to find them slaughtered a day or two later.  

Others begin to question their freedom, too, and a large group forms an alliance to venture out together.  The warden then declares it a crime against the community's collective well-being to defect, claiming their jobs are too important to the survival of the compound.

Reality now sets in.  Everyone immediately realizes that they are a prisoner.  From then on life becomes nearly unbearable, but after a few years the best behaved inmates may be able to relocate into highly monitored condos in sanitized communities.  Never mind the cameras in your house, they're for your protection. Keep your head down and do your duty.

Let's get real for a moment.  Given all we know about corporate-government false flags and plans for FEMA camps, will we have the courage when we look into the scared eyes of our children to refuse government "help" when the manufactured collapse comes? Perhaps you'll be prepared with a month or two of rations, but, assuredly, that is when the remaining masses will be most desperate as well. 

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Joe said...

Well, somebody _must_ be benefitting from such a scenario. Who? What to do? Move to one of the following countries:

New Zealand, Australia, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Iceland, Brazil

Woops, too late. I already did. :-)

m_astera said...

I have heard and read visions of this scenario from a few people. None of them mentioned helicopters, all of them said buses.

And all of them said "Don't get on the bus".

A couple said you would be inoculated, given a shot, when you got on the bus or to the camp. If you take that inoculation, you will never be the same.

Two said that it will not be difficult to avoid getting on the bus; simply hide in the basement or a back room or closet of your house. The soldiers will not be searching houses looking for people.

Don't get on the bus.

Anonymous said...

Second Civil War or Second Revolution. Stop building up my hopes. Bring it on.

Anonymous said...

First: I live in the country, miles from the nearest town, but not out of danger. From my container gardening this year I have canned 5 gal. of tomatoes, 4 gal. chili base, 2.5 gal. blueberry jams, 3 gals. of salsa, frozen 20lbs. of cherry tomatoes, cases of staples, (corn, white beans, rice, green beans, pinto beans, (proteins), SPAM, grow Kale year round as well as 12 other spices, 200 lbs. of beef in the freezer in the shop, along with 3 bushels of 3 diferent type home grown peppers, squash, and zucchini, as well as 100 lbs. of deer meat, etc., etc., etc.

I have built not only self watering containers but have converted my shop into an indoor greenhouse to grow year round, and have built my own lawnmower generator with old Chrysler generator to 3500 watt inverter to charge four Optima 75 AH AGM Super Deep Cycle batteries, and saving for a good solar panel to aid in recharging. Also, I have a home made water collection system and use stabilizer tablets that keep the water potable for up to five years.

To protect this, I have a 12 ga. pump shot gun loaded with slugs, a .22 rifle, and other acc. too numerous to mention with plenty of ammo.

Why do I brag of this? I don't. Look at my modest home and you would never know that any of this exists here. Nothing betrays me and the local sheriff is my neighbor, one of only three within a mile from my very defensible hilltop home. We live a very normal life and all family members are trained to defend themselves and their property.

Point? I do not fear what I have preached for 28 years when no one would listen. I am disabled and live on less than 1400 a month and have painstakingly budgeted my money over the years to slowly invest and prepare for just what I see coming now. I do not believe it will be as bad as I originally forecast, as the Feds have been very successful getting the sheep to trust them implicitely, thereby staving off the worst case scenarios. This has been pushed back year after year, and I think they will somehow pull it off again. If not, then no worries, as we have taught ourselves natural medicines, (and grown many of them), as well as stockpile medications most needed for emergencies.

Point? People, you can do this. I am nothing special and poorer than most, but have complete confidence in my and our abilities to survive however long it takes if the worst should befall us.

nolocontendere said...

Under the total collapse scenario you postulate I seriously doubt the feds will be able to carry out round ups and maintain camps. After all, the massive amount of personnel to carry out a program like that will be affected just as deeply by total breakdown and won't just work for free if money means zilch. They'll want to be with family and friends too.

I believe the feds might pull this off near a few cities but the rest of the country will fracture into all kinds of things, some dangerous and some not, with a whole lot of people simply living on their own, especially in outlying areas. Wife and I are in that rural category with stores, guns and well water. I don't think we'll see any buses our way.

si c said...

But what happen's as the scenario was suggesting if you have just ran out of food and water, and you see the desperate gangs looting and killing your neighbours, do you go out in a blaze of glory or do you look into your family's eyes and think that life even in a prison camp is still being alive, and a much better option then seeing them starve to death, raped,murdered and all the rest of the horrible stuff, I'm just wondering how many would get on the bus, I was recently out on a training ex and was eating MRE's it was cold and wet everyday and the nights were below zero and was getting around 4 hours sleep if that a night and after a few weeks I would of ran and jumped on the bus if there was one available, I think it's easy to say what you want to do when your surrounded by comfort and plenty, when your in a desperate situation things change very quickly

Anonymous said...

Stranger yet! I thought those FEMA Camps were for us troublemakers/Truthers to be locked away in...

Dimitri said...

"What ifs?" are curious exercises. Their central characteristic is that their response number is infinity. No matter how well you prepare though it's only a guess that your flight or fight response will prove to be appropriate to the circumstance. The best preparation, I think, is awareness and having the right information.

Anonymous said...

I believe you won't need helicopters or buses---the sheeple will go willingly because they will try to "beat out" friends/neighbors for a "good" room/spot. Promise food/water and access to T.V. and they will be beating down the doors! :)

Anonymous said...

As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air – however slight – lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.

William O. Douglas


I'm afraid that twilight has already passed. Prepare for the darkness.

Anonymous said...

2011 you say...? damn, that is soon my friend!! and this "multi-city nuclear attack" you speak of. The weapons are released by...?

Anonymous said...

As I see it the most important preparation of all ( after basic prep) and the one that must be continually restocked is the mental one, for it is the only weapon that will allow you, even when hungry and scared to see the government for what it is and has alwasys been, the enemy. BE READY TO STAND YOUR GROUND THERE IS NO "FEMA" OPTION.

si c said...

reality is your damned if you do and your damned if you don't in this situation,by not going to the camps your as good as dead unless your a hardened survivalist ,by going to the camps your a prisoner for life unless you comply and let yourself be reconditioned even then your under constant watch.

Anonymous said...

2011 you say...? damn, that is soon my friend!! and this "multi-city nuclear attack" you speak of. The weapons are released by...?
November 13, 2010 6:29 AM

In response . . . The weapons are released by the same people who brought down the twin towers. The very people you voted for . . . YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT.

Anonymous said...

Didn't anyone see Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory 11/13/10 and view Police State? It went into great detail about the FEMA camps and fusion centers. HR 645 was co-sponsored by two congressmen whom Jesse tried to interview. One ran out the back door when he found out what the questions would be. The other openly lied and said there were no FEMA camps.

Tom Spencer said...

well for one join ranks with others in the same boat, and form a watch tower over the surroundings to protect the future "our children" keep the remaining food supply's low and mainly for the children, for the people with all the food would be the biggest targets and having large amounts is not advisable.

I would rather take my chances with freedom, than walk into a gas chamber posing as a job opportunity (think nazi germany)

the camps bring false hope, a government can't bring salvation when it is reponsible for the tryanny you see before your own eyes.

I want to die fighting for something, on behalf of others to come (some not born yet) not die waiting for help to arrive.

sending you blessings from england, we are headed down the same road as america, our hearts go out to you patriots, stay strong humanity will prevail, where on your side.

just remember we have been here so many times in history, in previous carnation's, let's get it right this time, we need to take our power back in controlling our own destiny's.

god whatever source that may be, is on our side along with our allies that we can't yet see, but we feel there presence.

good will always over come evil,

light shines the darkness,

we are so powerful in our own right, we just need to remember what we were forced to forget.


Tom Spencer

Anonymous said...

I live in a fairly small town and I'm not worried about gangs. If anyone tries to break into my home I can always use what supplies and weapons they might have. I have enough grub, guns, and ammo to last for a while. I will sit tight and see what develops. I've lived most of my life anyway. Not really worried about much. The buses and FEMA camps aren't an option.

Anonymous said...

John: How on earth did you manage to write this intriguing scenario without once mentioning Operation Garden Plot and operation Cable Splicer. This was all officially fully prepared for well over a decade ago!

As for buses vs. helicopters: if you're picked up east of the Mississippi, and they are serious about getting you, you go to Fort Drum (upper NY state) by chopper for processing; if you're picked up west of the Mississippi, it's Fort Leavenworth by chopper for your processing appointment.

Choppers ensure no interdiction, escapes or rescue attempts en route, and every one of the 300 open-air Eisenhower-style FEMA camps constructed across the US some years ago conveniently also has its own concrete helicopter landing slab conveniently close to the outer-perimeter barbed wire main entrance (check the photos on the web of the camp in the wooded clearing at Fort Greyling, MI, as an example).

And these Eisenhower camps are effective: the US Army (under orders 'from the top') allegedly managed to starve and kill by disease between 1 and 1.5 million captured German soldiers immediately after WWII very efficiently with such camps, deliberately overcrowded and brutally neglected (see the book 'Other Losses' on this if you want to be forewarned from history).

Activist said...

You're right that it's a think piece, not a referenced research article. Thank you very much for providing some background for the readers. It is your thoughtful comments that bring more information to light. Thanks again for taking the time to visit and participate.

John G.

Anonymous said...

Prisoner in a fema camp, prisoner in your own home what's the difference? There is no freedom living in fear and defending yourself with high powered weapons afraid 24/7 because of probable attack. If you are stuck in one place because of supplies/food/ammo etc then you are completely reliant on that place and are not free. You have to guard it. The person that has to watch over something or someone is also a captive. You may as well be a guarded prisoner in a camp. My answer is DO NOT LET IT HAPPEN!!!!!

However, If it DOES happen then I will be using the power of the mind. We've been taught for centuries that this is crazy, not acceptable, against religion etc etc but I say it is the true weapon against tyranny and 'they' know it so have virtually outlawed it in whatever belief system you have chosen to run by. The creation abilities of the mind are infinite, we can create anything and we all have the ability to use it - it's just a matter of finding out how and believing it's OK. I ask this - why do we have these abilities if they are not to be used for creating peace? I know how to create true freedom using the mind, I've been training myself for years, and there's no one that can convince me that I shouldn't.

Ha Ha Ha stupid elites - you lose! My world is BEAUTIFUL

Anonymous said...

What's with the nuclear scenario?

Anonymous said...

Whoa Buddy - Your "12 ga. pump shot gun loaded with slugs and .22 rifle" is terribly inadequate for an EOTWAWKI scenario! Trade those in and get yourself a Semi-Auto 30 caliber rifle, spare mags, and several thousand rounds of ammo!

calwest123 said...

Has anyone thought about forming a survivist camp near the area you are located now.
There is safety in numbers.
My Uncle wonders if he could safety bring his 300# of silver with him when going into a FEMA camp?

Anonymous said...

You people are f*cking insane...

Anonymous said...

Yes, as the 4th post up from mine states, the power of our mind to deflect and transform this horrible reality, that's what the mind-numbing injections are supposed to kill. Resist all vaccines and the RFID chip! They are afraid of our coming evolution and seek to enslave us through mind controlling chips, mostly delivered by mind eroding vaccines. It is scientific fact that our galaxy is about to enter the Photon Belt, which will flood our brains and nervous systems with high energy frequencies that quickly transform the human race for the better. Yes, it sounds far out, but look up the Photon Belt and Somvarta to start. What we need to do to is band together for physical survival, as united we stand, divided we fall. Learn to raise your vibration through clean food, water and thoughts and learn about the Chakras and methods that strengthen and balance the energy field. Form groups to work on your evolution and physical survival. But first, while we still have the time, we need to stand up and resist this evil as is our patriotic duty to do so. For if we accept the erosion of our freedoms and liberties, we don't deserve either. If all else fails, I would rather be killed or kill myself than submit to a concentration camp.

Anonymous said...

My sister talks about this stuff all the time and I usually think it's all ridiculous, but then I saw this and now I'm not so sure. There's really no rational explanation for the things depicted in these murals or the other strange things about this place. Check it out yourself

Anonymous said...

To the poster who said..."You people are f**cking insane". Go back to sleep then and we won't bother waking you. While I don't think such a scenario is that close. I know it is coming someday and you best be prepared. If it does not happen then you have nothing to lose and have a good supply of food. However, when that day comes like most people believe it will...where will you be littl Anon. poster? You gonna coming looking to the people on this site for help? Or others in your community who have prepared? Don't be so sure they will take you in. Go back to your little American paradigm of thinking that the U.S. will go on and on forever and that we are too big too fail. Better yet, do yourself a favor and WAKE UP!

Anonymous said...

Want to see what a FEMA holiday camp will REALLY look like? Well since they're modeled on the US Army's infamous open-air Eisenhouwer 'killing camps' - which allegedly efficiently starved and otherwise 'eliminated' over a million captured German soldiers after WW2 - these are what you ought to be looking at.

You can download a PDF copy of the incredible 1989 Canadian 'Saturday Night' magazine story 'The Last Dirty Secret Of World War Two' at or you can get the text only (with no photographs) at - I recommend the PDF since it's an exact replica of this stunning multi-page article (complete with shocking photos) which you'll probably want to keep as your own personal warning from history.

As this article shows they have the means and they have the brutal will (together with the necessary experience and 300 of these open-air detention camps now constructed across the US) to be able to do this again in America.

Anonymous said...

Want to see what FEMA has planned for your future? Here are some revealing links on the concealed detention camp at Camp Grayling, MI as well as on other reported detention camp sites across America. NOTE: these lists are not fully up to date but they are comprehensive enough to show you the scale of preparation.

You'll note also the MI National Guard explanation of the Camp Grayling site as a 'training facility' for handling 'prisoners of war' - apparently designed and intended to be used, by this admission, exactly as the post WW2 open-air Eisenhower 'killing camps' were!

And who. under current legislation, would likely to become future 'prisoners on war' in America?

If you look closely at the bottom right hand side of the next-to-last photo on the first link below, you'll clearly see the concrete helicopter landing slab right next to the front entrance to this detention facility. Useful for transporting those 'prisoners of war'!

Photos Of Detention Camp In Michigan Woods?

American Concentration Camps

Location of FEMA Concentration Camps | More About Concentration Camps in America

Camp Grayling, our nations most evil secret, page 1

U.S. Concentration Camps on Google Maps, page 1‎

Want a first-hand account of what life (or rather 'death') was like inside these open-air Eisenhower 'killing camps'?

Eisenhower's German POW Death Camps - A US Guard's Story

Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans

And here's a key part of the blueprint:

[PDF] US Army Field Manual FM 3-19.15, Civil Disturbance Operations

Anonymous said...

And some illuminating information on the little-known planning framework which holds this entire concealed internment operational structure up...

'More on the government plans code-named Operation Cable Splicer and Operation Garden Plot (FM 19-15), sub programs of the Rex 84 Program...'
Plans For Civilian Internment - Stalag 17 American Style

Operation Garden Plot (Must read!)

'... plan for the deployment of Operation Garden Plot (use of CIDCON-1)...'
Operation Garden Plot at The Turiya Files

'In Operation Garden Plot, military forces established intelligence exchange .... FM 100-5 and FM 34-7 provide more detailed information on OOTW activities ...'
FM 34-1 Chptr 6 - Operations Other Than War And Special Operations

Anonymous said...

Here's a superb, lengthy review (with some horrifying photographs) of another book on the same topic: 'After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation'.

We need to be aware of what has been done before in order to guard against its repetition on us in the future; and we also need to know that the reputation of the US Army for, and its acquiescence in, the brutal 'elimination' of countless numbers of helpless incarcerated prisoners should not lead us to depend upon the protection of that Army if an attempt were to be made in the future to replicate the same atrocities in the United States.

Interestingly enough, this really excellent article (contributed by a European or North American reader) appears on the 'Pravda' newspaper forum in Russia - it equally excoriates the Russian behaviour in Germany after WW2 as well. so it's more than even-handed!

You'll find it at

It's well worth downloading and keeping, again as a warning from the past for the future!

Medicine said...

Pendostan is Over! :)
Soon you'll be paying for the evil of USA
From Russia with love

Anonymous said...

The astonishing and sobering book cited above, 'Other Losses' by James Bacque, is now legally available as a free PDF or Kindle download at:

Or, if you wish, you can read it there online.

"Other Losses is a 1989 book by Canadian writer James Bacque, in which Bacque alleges that U.S. General Dwight Eisenhower intentionally caused the deaths by starvation or exposure of around a million German prisoners of war held in Western internment camps briefly after the Second World War. Other Losses charges that hundreds of thousands of German prisoners that had fled the Eastern front were designated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" in order to avoid recognition under the third Geneva Convention, for the purpose of carrying out their deaths through disease or slow starvation. Other Losses cites documents in the U.S. National Archives and interviews with people who stated they witnessed the events. The book claims that there was a "method of genocide" in the banning of Red Cross inspectors, the returning of food aid, the policy regarding shelter building, and soldier ration policy"

Download it, read it, and be warned from history!

And note more of the German testimony that buttresses the truth of it, buried in this recent Russian newspaper article:

"Dietrich Saits seems rather reluctant to dwell upon the subject. When I told him there was no use to feel sorry for SS and Gestapo, for they deserved to starve to death, he said there were no SS soldiers in their POW camp – they were all young teenage soldiers like him. “All combat units were on the Eastern front. Far more than 10 000 people died in our camp of starvation and dysentery, there were no toilets, no food – we had to eat rotten roots slops. I have no wish to discuss it. I might be accused of Nazism propaganda.”"

- from 'Anglo-Saxons’ Crimes In World War II', in “Argumenty i Facty”, 15 November, 2010, via English translation (with live link to original Russian article) at

"Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it."

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

We are already in FEMA camps. Wake up people!

Anonymous said...


Great articles by

Madison Rupert: Smile, You ae a Civilian Internee [ ]
Ronnie Cummins: It’s time for the Great Boycott of Big Food Inc. [ ]
Susan Lindauer: A Dangerous Woman --- Indevinite Detention at Carswell ;
Eisenhower's Killing Camps are models for the FEMA expanded death camps.
John Galt: When the Collapse Comes, Will FEMA Camps Look Like Club Med?
and many really good posts to both articles. Hooray for common sense. Yet there is something missing. The individual posts in support of the findings of the articles are just that – individual. I see no real consensus, – no real call to action, – no organization of ideas let alone organization of people into a coherent force to oppose the oligarchs of the drug, food, energy, medical, financial, equity, prison camp, utility, transportation, and bribery trades.

When is it going to dawn on the postors and protestors that the real answer is to take back our Federal, State and Local governments from the RadCons, from the Corporate State of America, and from the New World Order?

We cannot begin to have the people govern by electing competent and ethical members of Congress until we have joined together in a massive NEW PARTY which will fight and win seats in Congress and then “throw the rascals out”. It's time (actually almost too late) to form and fund our NEW PARTY (name is a placeholder) and fight the REPUBLICRATIC PARTY. See:

Jim Miller

Anonymous said...

We may all have the survival instinct in us. We might want a fort in which to "hide" our goods, guns and ammo. But look what happened in WACO and Ruby Ridge. Having a "fort" is simply a new target for the Ra'zak minions of the Corporate State of America (Ref: Christopher Paolini, "Eldest") an invitation to slaughter. You might try hit and run tactics, but even that take time, money, citizen support and a willingness to die for your cause. Meanwhile, who is going to take care of your family?

While we still have time before the next election, we have GOT to take back our democratic rights. That will take organization, funding and millions of workers on the streets spreading the truth to the voters.

We must ALWAYS avoid violence even if the author of the violence is the USA cops and military. It is OK to arm yourself against criminals who would invade your home -- self-defense.

Simply put, let's turn some of the energy spent on writing posts into action and form the NEW PARTY and take back Federal State and Local governments into the hands of the actual voters.

We cannot begin to have the people govern by electing competent and ethical members of Congress until we have joined together in a massive NEW PARTY which will fight and win seats in Congress and then “throw the rascals out”. It's time (actually almost too late) to form and fund our NEW PARTY (name is a placeholder) and fight the REPUBLICRATIC PARTY. See:

Jim Miller

Anonymous said...

Two and a half years later and still no FEMA camps. Not even after Sandy. So much for whatever little credibility you might ever have had.

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