Climate Scientist Warns Against Geoengineering At TED Conference Vancouver

By Derrick Broze

The topic of geoengineering the climate continues to break into the mainstream as climate engineers debated the controversial topic at the latest TED talks in Vancouver. 

The annual TED (Technology, Entertainment, Design) conference is designed to facilitate conversation around “ideas worth spreading.” Founded in 1984, the TED organization distributes free talks related to technology, design, science, culture, and academia. The annual TED conference in Vancouver, Canada, TED Global, and regional TEDx events are increasingly celebrated and consumed by a growing portion of the world thanks to the viral spread of popular talks. The topics are occasionally controversial – sometimes leading to them being banned by TED – and this years conference in Vancouver was no exception.

At the 2017 TED talks, several speakers discussed the almost-mainstream idea of geoengineering the planet to combat climate change. Business Insider reported:

On Wednesday morning, computer theorist Danny Hillis got onstage and proposed a series of ideas for what he called a “thermostat to turn down the temperature of the earth.”

Hillis, the founding partner of tech innovation company Applied Invention, rattled off a number of geoengineering concepts that have popped up in recent years, including building giant parasols in space, putting fizzy water into the ocean, and sending chalk into the atmosphere so that it can reflect sunlight and theoretically cool down the earth.

The science of geoengineering has increasingly become a part of the public conversation around climate change and an ever-controversial topic within the scientific community. Geoengineering is a type of weather modification (or climate engineering) which has been researched, but, until recently, has been considered too unpredictable to attempt on a large scale.  According to a 2013 congressional report:

The term ‘geoengineering’ describes this array of technologies that aim, through large-scale and deliberate modifications of the Earth’s energy balance, to reduce temperatures and counteract anthropogenic climate change. Most of these technologies are at the conceptual and research stages, and their effectiveness at reducing global temperatures has yet to be proven. Moreover, very few studies have been published that document the cost, environmental effects, socio-political impacts, and legal implications of geoengineering. If geoengineering technologies were to be deployed, they are expected to have the potential to cause significant transboundary effects.

In general, geoengineering technologies are categorized as either a carbon dioxide removal (CDR) method or a solar radiation management (SRM) (or albedo-modification) method. CDR methods address the warming effects of greenhouse gases by removing carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere. CDR methods include ocean fertilization, and carbon capture and sequestration. SRM methods address climate change by increasing the reflectivity of the Earth’s atmosphere or surface. Aerosol injection and space-based reflectors are examples of SRM methods. SRM methods do not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere, but can be deployed faster with relatively immediate global cooling results compared to CDR methods.

Hillis told the audience at TED 2017 that in order to “undo the effects of the CO2 we’ve already released” we would have to put chalk in the sky at a rate of 10 teragrams a year. Once Hillis finished singing the praises of geoengineering, climate scientist Kate Marvel was give a chance to respond. Marvel is an associate research scientist at Columbia University, as well as a Science Fellow at Stanford.

“Danny, you seem so nice, and I hope we can be friends, and you terrify me,” she said.

“Geoengineering, she said, is like going to a doctor who says ‘You have a fever, I know exactly why you have a fever, and we’re not going to treat that,” Business Insider reported. “We’re going to give you ibuprofen, and also your nose is going to fall off.’ It is, Marvel believes, a band-aid for the problem accompanied by consequences we can’t currently imagine.”

Marvel also stated that reducing the amount of sunlight is “problematic” and would not do anything about other environmental dangers, such as ocean acidification. Marvel was followed by another call for geoengineering from University of Oxford researcher Tim Kruger. The King of Global Warming Doomsday Prophecies himself, Al Gore, said that geoengineering could be a possible time in the future, but not as the only solution.

Marvel is correct that the consequences of geoengineering are not currently known. However, there have been a number of studies which have lead to disastrous possibilities. Most recently, in late October 2016, the United Nations’ Convention on Biological Diversity released a report examining the problems of geoengineering and whether or not humanity will be forced to employ the practice in an attempt to halt climate change. The report,  On Climate Geoengineering In relation to the Convention on Biological Diversity: Potential Impacts and Regulatory Framework, found that geoengineering “would reduce the impacts of climate change on biodiversity at the global level,” but also cause unpredictable rain and temperature distribution on the local level.

The U.N. report states that the effectiveness of geoengineering is “uncertain” and “in reducing the scale of one problem, other new problems would be created. Thus, there would also be risk of the geoengineering action also contributing to other drivers affecting biodiversity loss and ecosystem integrity.” Dr. Phillip Williamson, lead author of the report and scientist with the Natural Environment Research Council in the United Kingdom, says he is skeptical of geoengineering.

The U.N. concludes that although Solar Radiation Management may possibly slow the loss of Arctic sea ice, but not without “unacceptable climatic impacts elsewhere.” One particular method of SRM involves injecting aerosols into the atmosphere via airplanes. The study found that the use of sulphur aerosols for SRM would be associated with a risk of stratospheric ozone loss. There is also a risk that stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI) would have a small impact on climate change but could lead to negative impacts on biodiversity.

The geoengineering TED talks were preceded by a concerning announcement from Harvard related to an upcoming real-world climate engineering experiment. At the recent “Forum on Solar Geoengineering Research,” Harvard engineer (and consistent proponent of climate engineering) David Keith announced his plan for a new project that will assess the risks and benefits of deploying geoengineering on a large public scale. Keith and fellow engineer, Frank Keutsch, will research the benefits and risks by spraying particles such as sulfur dioxide, alumina, or calcium carbonate from a high-altitude balloon over Arizona during 2018.

David Keith said there will be a multi-phase plan for research and conducting real-world testing within the next 18 months. Keith also called for stratospheric spraying within three years and continuous spraying for at least a century. Technology Review reports that Keith said his team is already in the process of “engineering design work with Arizona test balloon company World View Enterprises,” and discussing the “appropriate governance structure for such an experiment.”

“In terms of governance, they have distributed, there’s more actors involved than we expected there would be,” Keith stated. “There’s more need to understand and to speak openly about the associated risks and what they imply for governance.” The very notion of unilateral geoengineering means that other countries could face potential risks. This creates a need for new governance structures, or possibly, a global government. This makes the Trump administration’s support for geoengineering curious since President Trump has been very outspoken against “globalists.”

Yet again, the U.S. government is planning to enact a possibly dangerous, untested technology on not only the American population, but the entire world. There are realistic solutions that do not involve edicts from states and statists. If the free hearts and minds of this world – the free humans – recognize the opportunity for a radical change in individual behavior we could erase the unsustainable, destructive industries that damage the planet and all life. If we choose to stand by and not change our own habits and communities, we are giving the state the impetus to act. We are sending the message that the people cannot organize and accomplish goals based on mutual aid. It’s time to stand together in defense of the life on this planet.

We need to spread the word about the dangers of geoengineering and the history of weather modification. Please share this article far and wide.

(For more details on the dangers of Geoengineering and the history of weather modification, please read this full article)

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Derrick Broze is an investigative journalist and liberty activist. He is the Lead Investigative Reporter for and the founder of the Follow him on Twitter. Derrick is the author of three books: The Conscious Resistance: Reflections on Anarchy and Spirituality and Finding Freedom in an Age of Confusion, Vol. 1 and Finding Freedom in an Age of Confusion, Vol. 2

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50 Comments on "Climate Scientist Warns Against Geoengineering At TED Conference Vancouver"

  1. #Geoengineeringwatch go to the site and see the massive destruction these egghead idiots are doing to us and the planet

    • Grace by Faith on yt | April 29, 2017 at 2:23 pm |

      While I agree there’s a lot of good information there, and it’s a great place to send people who are entirely unaware of this or who are hearing it for the first time, beware the false prophet who says he’s there to help because he’s probably only referring to helping his bank account and helping control us..Judge him by the fruit of his works and remember, the truth should always be free and no one should profit from spreading it. Blessings~

  2. A New Little Ice Age just started and these criminal jackasses want to cool the planet.

    • Agree. Warming is not a killer and is not a threat by any measure.

      Global cooling is the only legitimate potential future concern. Just a few years of world crop failure due to cold would cause devastating widespread food shortages.

      • Grace by Faith on yt | April 29, 2017 at 2:29 pm |

        Oh good grief, the climate changes and we adjust just like earth does. This isn’t rocket surgery, this is that dreaded common sense no one ever listens to anymore! Sometimes it’s colder and sometimes it’s warmer and no one, unless they’re messing with it on purpose (can you say HAARP/ GWEN?) can predict it with any certainty whatsoever, especially not with the sort of dirty pseudo-science they’re spewing out these days, created by those in control who pay for it..

    • Hope you can cite references for your statement—footnotes, evidence, results of scientific studies. No, I guess you’re just blowing hot air, adding to the problem

  3. Both claims – Calamitous AGW and “chemtrails” – are laughable self-delusions.

    (It is easy to charter a plane and take samples of those WATER VAPOR CONTRAILS. Funny that the conspiracy theorists haven’t gone to the trouble.)

    “Be afraid! Be very afraid”

    • Grace by Faith on yt | April 29, 2017 at 7:49 am |

      Oh come on, no one’s that stupid anymore. So i guess it’s magic when two planes are flying in the same atmosphere and one emits normal contrails of water vapor that evaporates and one is streaming out bellows of smoly plumes that not only criss-cross (water evaporates, Einstein) the sky, but spread out and block out the sun entirely. Contrails evaporate, chemtrails do not.

      Sorry, but you’re either in denial, a paid shill, or completely blind and ignorant, and frankly, I don’t care which. This is no theory, all you have to do is look up from your iphone once in a while to see what’s happening. I’m so sick of people telling us not to believe what our eyes are proving, but when they come out with articles like this that are easily discredited as well as people who are discredited (like you), we out here fighting for the truth know we’re on the right path.

    • Ro2….CIA troll entering blog to spew garbage and add to the cloud of unknowing that’s killing all life on earth…good job, you moron

  4. Grace by Faith on yt | April 29, 2017 at 7:29 am |

    Yikes, there are so many glaring problems with this article I don’t even know where to start. First, it states, “Geoengineering is a type of weather modification (or climate engineering) which has been researched, but, until recently, has been considered to be too unpredictable to attempt on a large scale.” They’ve been spraying us all over the world like bugs for at least two decades.

    Second, climate change, global warming, and too much CO2 in the atmosphere are BS, further, a well-planned psyop they’ve been planning all along, which fits in with their equally absurd psyop that the world is over populated and somehow is destroying itself. Hogwash.

    Third, “The U.N. report states that the effectiveness of geoengineering is uncertain…” More hogwash, the effects are clear and easily quantified if they’d only fund scientific papers on it, which they won’t. We’ve seen devastating effects including the desiccation of plant and wild life, droughts, and sepsis (cellular decomposition) which occurs when the sun is blocked out, and it’s blocked out all the time now. Not to mention severe breathing problems in the population that they conveniently (for them) call “adult allergies” for which they simply toss out inhalers to everyone. And what about the effects on our brains from them spraying heavy metals (and Lord knows what else)?

    That is the most disturbing and glaring omission of alll, the effects on life itself, nary a concern there! This is just one flaming psyop to get us to go on some freakish carbon tax credit system, where we are mandated by fake law to get down to zero carbon emissions, but the only way we can accomplish that is not to breathe at all. Clever little snakes they are…

    Articles and TED talks like this are nothing but attempts to manipulate the minds of the masses, scare the heck out of them (trauma-based control) and control the opposition by installing one of their own (Stanford, really? See: Tavistock Institute of Crisis Creation and Mass Manipulation) who gives bits and pieces of truth and pretends to be in opposition, but falls short of the truth by miles and miles. Geoengineering watch dot com is also controlled opposition, Dane’s been at this for what, 5 years now and what has he accomplished? He’s filthy rich now, that’s what.

    Global warming… CO2 is bad… ROFL. Plants need it to thrive and we breathe it out, it’s a well-designed system they’re doing their very best to destroy.

    • Everything you say makes sense to me. I have friends all over the world reporting “persistent contrails” in grids and the loss of sunlight. One friend say the environmental department state of Arizona said there is nothing they can do because it’s not their jurisdiction. The sheeples will eat whatever pablum they are given and will not fight for change. So what can an awake minority do?

      • Grace by Faith on yt | April 29, 2017 at 2:17 pm |

        What can we do? Good question. The only thing I know for a fact is that to them, silence = consent, and this dead corporate legal system we’re literally enslaved by only has authority when WE breathe life into it – they have no authority to do anything without our consent and if we stay silent, they manufacture consent out of it. So call everyone, police, FBI, FCC, NOAA, FAA, mayors, city councilmen, airlines, airports, the obnoxious Orange Ooompa-Looompa in the White House, write to your fake representatives in the senate and in the house, and basically make their lives miserable so they have absolutely no choice but to at least address it. And pray for the poor order followers who are “just doing my job” up there in the sky because they probably have no idea what they’re doing, or have been lied to about why they’re doing it. These poor souls are compartmentalized on purpose. Get bumper stickers that read, LOOK UP, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY SPRAYING!? And most importantly, stay out of it when it’s bad, wear a mask, a hat, and cover your skin when you can. God save us all~

        • Thank you! Is geo engineering forbidden vernacular too? Also, it seems that they are spraying more at night now too so I’m not sure the morning dew will be all the clean.

          • Grace by Faith on yt | April 30, 2017 at 6:20 am |

            Yes, they do spray all the time, but the dew helps bring it to the ground so we aren’t breathing it as much, a slight help, but still… Regarding the word geoengineering, I usually stay away from their words because they have legal definitions which are different from ours and some of them trick us into consenting to something we would otherwise reject. That said, maybe their words are the only ones that they “understand” seeing as how they’re only a corporation and not people. In their language, to understand doesn’t mean comprehend it means to agree, to stand under. That is a great point and might just be the way to get results… geoengineering, because at least they admit to that now. Either way you slice this rose, by any other name it is air pollution, and that’s a huge word for the environmentalists. 😉

          • Thank you again. BTW, a typical dust mask probably won’t help much if there are nanoparticles.

          • Grace by Faith on yt | April 30, 2017 at 11:39 am |

            Good point, and you’re right. But it would be good for effect maybe if we write “Look Up!” on them and wear them anyway when the spraying is really bad and really obvious. lol

          • This pollution from Hell makes the soil more alkaline. Trees like my liquid amber are dying, attracting bugs and mold because of their lower immunity as we are too.

        • The nano aluminum and nano smart dust ..aka..morgellons…can’t be filtered out. Every living thing is being polluted..Radioactive coal dust, barium, strontium, mold. As the song goes…no where to run, no where to hide.

    • If common sense may be so bold, both the rising CO2 and diminishing O2 have a common cause in timber harvesting for home construction. Since trees require on and provide the other, legislating the use of soil based construction materials would be a logical step toward solving the the imbalance. Has this method of construction not already proven in commercial building with greater maintenance free life?
      The “band aid the symptoms” practice for profit of ($4,200,000,000) annually for type 2 diabetes symptoms control while suppressing the known cure for 37 years should stir some common sense suspicion as to their reason for poisoning populations with unilateral geoengineering to provide yet more patients/victims to feed the coffers of mega pharmaceutical giants. Their success since seizing product information immediately after the fall of the 3rd Reich has been phenomenal with the use of chemical additives in both food and water allowed by the bribed agency organized as watchdog plus pushers bribed to push FDA approved poisons to trusting patient/victims.

      Why should a system that has been highly successful during it’s entire life be abandoned when another opportunity arises to increase profits measured in trillions? Is tax paid insurance and TV advertising any less guilty of the continuing fraud? Every profit based fraud they concoct is perpetrated under the guise of being for the greater good of humanity. Donald can’t stop it all until the swamp is drained. Wake up folks. Follow the money trail, but don’t expect to find it on MSM news. They’re a great part of the problem.

      • Grace by Faith on yt | April 30, 2017 at 6:28 am |

        Donald can do anything he wants but he has zero interest in stopping or draining anything, because he’s part of the swamp. I hope you get that because he proves that daily. If Donald were on the level (where he cares about us and the corruption in guv’ment), he’d have already stopped chemtrails, but he’s flip-flopped his way through his 100 days just like one of their own,to the point he’s parroting Hillary, they being those who want to start WW3 and foment some sort of warped new world order. Nothing has changed with Donald and nothing will.

        Your comment is awesome, apart from that little misstep, please take another step forward and admit the entire system is corrupt and that no one inside it (he’s WAY inside it, he’s Hillary’s cousin for crying out loud, it’s all about bloodlines) can fix it.

        • Yes there is the bloodline in politics. Obama’s Bush’s cousin. all the Presidents are chosen by the NWO.

          • Grace by Faith on yt | May 3, 2017 at 6:02 am |

            True! Probably preaching to the choir here because you know your stuff, but for others, this nepotistic operation goes way, way deeper, too. All US presidents except one, Van Buren, who was most likely Dutch royalty-descended, and even all US governors now (these are military posts, not just political posts) are distantly related to each other as well as to one British King, King John, who in 1213 surrendered to Rome (the Vatican) but was allowed to save face to foment the fraud to come. It is this treaty that enslaves us today.

            In that year he signed a treaty of Holy Alliance or a contract with the Pope which gave up British sovereignty, and the US, being a crown colony, because we never really gained independence – one of the biggest lies of them all – by extension, is still included in this treaty. The treaty reads that so long as there are heirs to both signatories of this contract, and there’s always a Pope, the treaty stands. It stands today.

            So Trump is related to Clinton is related to Bush is related to Obama, and so on, and so on… Trump, whose real name is Drumpf, is Hillary’s cousin, so it could have been either one who won the fake election, but they went with the plan and chose the one who could create the most chaos so they have their excuse to ramp up the police state for their new world disorder.

            Check out the “secret” Treaty of Verona which lays out the plan to destabilize all of our nations so we will accept their new Roman disorder willingly, or another Treaty of Holy Alliance of 1783 which states George the Third was “Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire & C. and of the United States of America.” Note the date, this was after we supposedly won independence!

            It was not just ceremonial or metaphorical when in 1984 Reagan said to the Pope, “Holy Father, I give you my country.”

          • The Hegelian Dialectic is in play…cause…reaction..solution.. no doubt.

      • It’s eugenics 101 and profiteering by and for the Elite New World Order, inbred, Bankster, pedophile, psychopath crew. The Georgia Guidestones they erected state a world population of 500 million is preferred. GMO, toxic sterilizing vaccines, killer viruses, war, fluoride, starvation and other eugenics methods should work. It’ll be a lot like the movie Hunger Games.

      • Can you tell me more about the known cure for Type 2 diabetes? I know some who have managed through diet and lifestyle changes but am not aware of other cures.

        • The Healthy, all natural diet. No white sugar, no white flour… processed foods and losing weight. Exercise too

          • Oh, yes! I am aware of this. Just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something else. Thank you.

    • Can you fill me in with a little more info regarding Dane? I think if hes acting he should get an oscar. Pardon me some days I cant spell at all. keith

      • Grace by Faith on yt | May 2, 2017 at 2:36 pm |

        Not really much I can tell you, but you can judge for yourself by just observing his actions. When people continually beg for money and support, and then spend it on conventions where he can make even more money, and if nothing is accomplished in the theater of government which he claims he’s fighting, well, there’s that.

        There is also the problem he had with one of his partners whom he shoved out and left despondent, sullying his reputation so he was unable to continue in this field. But that’s speculative, so take it for what it’s worth there.

        Dane is one of those guys who has compartmentalized this entire issue and corraled people in a nifty little box where they are easily controlled, and he stops short of the whole truth and still plays indifferent to addressing the real problem which is fighting those like I said in the arena he’s claiming to oppose.

        After all these years, he hasn’t accomplished anything that changes anything, apart from waking people up which is awesome, and so those people give him money, but it seems to never go anywhere except into his own bank account.

        By now, you’d think he would’ve at least spent some of that money hiring a plane and following some of these chemtrails, doing scientific experimentation and sampling with video evidence and witnesses, not to mention funding the the independent labs to analyze them, but he hasn’t. He’s done ground source work with sampling, but again, that was over 5 years ago, and with all that money, why is there no progress except to gain more and more subscribers? He’s unable to influence government officials as they’ve done nothing about him, so that troubles me. It also troubles me that they haven’t shut him down like they do everyone else which tells me to beware, he might just be working for the other side. I emphasize might.

        Bottom line is, you’ll have to judge him for yourself, these are just my opinions, and observations and I’m nobody but a lady with a laptop and time to research and write what I find.. 😉 God bless you~

    • The Globalists New World Order crew and sycophants in Govt. chose CO2..aka..plant food because it’s emitted by vehicles and industry. It’s not the arbiter of global warming and cooling. Variations in solar radiation and the suns orbit, forest fires, volcanic activity, methane release and other factors cause the shift. CO2 levels follow our cycles of cold and warm periods. there is anthropogenic..aka…manmade. Global warming is caused by chemtrails as do natural clouds when they retain the earths heat. It is an extortion scam. Al Gore has become very wealthy. He has multiple mansions, rides around in limo’s and private jets and lectures the little people about the need to sacrifice and cut back. Agenda 21 & 2030 is now in session.

  5. ZioNazi Tru*p just said he’s a globalist – i.e. in the negative sense; conquerors of other nations and humanity; whilst being ULTRA-nationalist at the same time. This is why he loves the ZNWO geoengineering!

    • And who are actually behind the GEOENGINEERING of so-called El-Nino – that is causing so-called
      natural massive Famine among the Somalian/Ethiopian poor including the refugees?

      Ever two-faced Jap*n (which is going bankrupt with high foreign debt), with its ZNWO’s master is purposely destroying the Pacific-Indian Oceans for human habitation, through Fukushima Nuclear-reactors explosion in 2011 (supposedly labelled as so-called accident caused by earthquake and the following Tsunami) – called Fukushima 3-11, which was suspected to have been caused by Diego Garcia-based highly secretive ZioNuclear Submarine’s bombing underwater in the Pacific; see – at Japanese Military Joins U.S. And NATO In Horn Of Africa, Richard Rozoff, Stop NATO, April 25, 2010; at – Israel Submarine Capabilities,July 30, 2015; at – Welcome to Fukushima, 3/11 Truth, Page last updated on March 5, 2014; at – Fukushima Site Still Leaking AfterFive- Years, Research Shows, March 7, 2016; and at – Asia Tsunami Proved Biggest War Crime in History, Tsunami Part Two. Copyright Joe Vialls, 24 February 2005 (the bravest Joe Vialls mysteriously died of ‘heart attack’ soon after this NWO nucklear- Tsunami’s exposure , in 2005).

      The massive radioactive contaminants released into the Pacific ocean from Fukushima 3-11 until today, is causing diseases especially cancer, and massive environmental disaster, that is suspected to be producing the massive extreme heating and rising up of the sea level, and hence producing extreme radiation/burning-like hot weather and also drought/flooding – but labelled as so-called natural El-Nino, especially across the Western Pacific Ocean, and towards the Indian ocean.

      See – Pacific Ocean Catastrophe Confirmed, Fukushima Mega Nuclear Disaster
      Causing Massive Die Offs, agreenroadjournal, Updated: 2016; and at – TV: Radiation in ocean off
      Fukushima at highest levels in years — Out of control leakage coming from plant — ‘Big spikes’ in radioactivity observed — “Surprising… Concerning… Crisis” — 1,000s of tons of contaminated liquid being released — Scientists: Japan gov’t covering up situation, By ENENews, Published: March 16th, 2016.

    • Were you born with a head full of crap?

  6. This should be discussed in present tense, not some futuristic thing. If you don’t think geo engineering hasn’t already been going on for years, you haven’t been noticing the sky.

  7. Those white streaks in the sky are normal contrails composed of water vapor with characteristics which vary widely with varying altitude, localized dew point, wind, and shear conditions. There is nothing different about today’s contrails verses those of 50 years ago, other than numbers due to vastly increased air travel over the period.

    It is a simple matter to charter a plane, fly up there right into those contrails and take air samples to prove your “chemtrail” theory!

    Isn’t it funny that the “chemtrail” nuts haven’t gone to the trouble?

    • minimum wage shills need a daily suppository dose of the chemtrail poison. Water and soil samples of all the toxins far above safe levels don’t lie. Two planes flying near each other. One emits a contrail which disappears in minutes..the other emits chemtrails which don’t disappear but spreads and goes for miles then stops..then starts again.

      • Grace by Faith on yt | April 30, 2017 at 6:32 pm |

        ‘Bout spit my tea on that one… “suppository dose of the chemtrail poison”. Ouch! Considering his mouth is running through his fingers like a leaky enema, it’s quite fitting (and rather slippery). Wonder if he can make up an excuse as to why his “contrails” start and stop as they fly across the sky in cross and obtuse patterns that are not on any published flight paths? Guess that means the engines cut out… here and there. Enjoying your input, Robrage. 😉

  8. Geo-Engineer David Keith and his crew were doing a symposium here in San Diego debating the pros and cons of spraying nano Aluminum, strontium, barium, nano smart dust, radioactive coal ash, mold and other dangerous toxins to reflect solar radiation. The truth is our Govt. has been doing it for 15 years and it’s slow killing all living things. Many plants can’t handle the high alkaline soil. People and other living things are chronically ill and dying from this poison because it lowers the immune system. Geo-Engineering and HAARP alter the weather. CO2 is plant food not something we need to sequester.

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