Climate Change And Geoengineering Deceptions

By Catherine J. Frompovich

Geoscientist J. Marvin Herndon, PhD, of the Transdyne Corporation, published a provocative paper April 21, 2017 in the Journal of Geography, Environment and Earth Science International, titled “Evidence of Variable Earth-heat Production, Global Non-anthropogenic Climate Change, and Geoengineered Global Warming and Polar Melting.” [1]

Readers may remember I’ve featured Dr Herndon’s innovative scientific research regarding weather geoengineering a couple of times: “Weather Geoengineering, Chemtrails, Aluminum and Alzheimer’s: The Four Horsemen Of The Weather Apocalypse,” and “Intentional Efforts To Cause Global Warming And Glacier Melting Indication Scientifically Found.”

One of the more revealing concepts Dr Herndon mentions in his recent article is something not many are willing to acknowledge as the cause of much grief affecting humans and the environment: During the past 38 years, the standards of scientific inquiry have changed, particularly among those who depend upon government support. Logic-based challenges to current thinking have largely been replaced by consensus conformity.”

Sciences specifically affected by “consensus conformity” include, among others, the health sciences, especially vaccinology, or the ‘science’ of vaccines—more like pseudoscience, I offer, and microwave science, which lags behind from the World War II era in recognizing only thermal waves but not health-damaging non-thermal radiation waves [2].

Dr Herndon goes on to elaborate on “consensus conformity” with

But science is a logical process, not a democratic process. The idea that large, complex problems are resolved by something called “scientific consensus” has the consequence of misleading not only the public, but members of the scientific community as well.

As Dr Herndon states, The oceans are our planet’s major reservoir for CO2.”  OMG, how will they ever collect carbon taxes from the oceans?  Or from humans, who exhale it with every outbreath? Isn’t that quite an insurmountable problem? Or, will they impose human CO2 taxes for our polluting the planet just by living and breathing on what cabal controllers ‘think’ is their scientific playground?  Please excuse my tongue-in-cheekiness.

However, in Dr Herndon’s latest paper, we find questions [3], which need answering—and very soon.

  • As NOAA and NASA are both prime sources of data utilized in climate models and assessments, and are apparently participants in the global covert tropospheric geoengineering activity, how objective are their data?
  • Indeed, what are the purposes of spraying a toxic substance into the air we breathe on a near-daily, near-global basis? Surely, those closely connected with the operation know that it causes global warming and polar ice melting.
  • Do government leaders realize that the intent of these covert geoengineering efforts is to cause global warming? Or are leaders being deceived, told that the tropospheric aerosol spraying is to prevent global warming?
  • Is it being done to get at the petroleum and other natural resources beneath polar ice?
  • Is tropospheric geoengineering being done to cause global warming so as to provide a basis for the United Nations to take control of major elements of sovereign nations’ economies? Or are more sinister motives involved?
  • The military has researched weaponizing weather since 1947, but at what cost to human and environmental health? What have leaders been told that makes them acquiesce to a program that is no less than an assault on planet Earth?
  • Who profits from this?
  • Why are scientists promoting the idea of future geoengineering when they know, or certainly ought to know, that tropospheric geoengineering has been ongoing nearly worldwide for decades.”

Nevertheless, the scientific “nitty-gritty” aspects of Dr Herndon’s paper, I think, can be found in his discussion of COVERT GEOENGINEERING CONTRIBUTION TO GLOBAL WARMING.”  Here’s what he says in part:

Geoengineering is defined here as deliberate, large-scale activities aimed at modifying weather/climate systems [i.e., from the troposphere to the stratosphere to the ionosphere — all natural systems]. Weather modification programs have been employed by many nations at least since the 1960s, that is for over half a century, typically for agricultural purposes.”


There has not only been great secrecy involved, but governments have deceived citizens, either denying the aerial activity or falsely asserting that the observed aerial trails are simply contrails, ice crystals formed from water vapor in jet exhaust. In 2005 the United States Air Force distributed to government agencies and published online a document entitled “Contrails Facts” [65] which blatantly denied the existence of the observed particulate trails and falsely asserted that they are contrails.

65., Accessed April 17, 2017.


There is good evidence that the main particulate matter being sprayed into the troposphere worldwide is coal fly ash, the light ash from coal combustion by electric power companies that is considered to be too toxic to be allowed to exit smokestacks in Western nations [63,66-68].

63. Herndon JM. Adverse agricultural consequences of weather modification. AGRIVITA Journal of Agricultural Science. 2016;38:213-221.

66. Herndon JM, Whiteside M. Further evidence of coal fly ash utilization in tropospheric geoengineering: Implications on human and environmental health. J. Geog. Environ. Earth Sci. Intn. 2017;9: 1-8.

67. Herndon JM. Aluminum poisoning of humanity and earth’s biota by clandestine geoengineering activity: Implications for India. Curr. Sci. 2015;108:2173-2177.

68. Herndon JM. Obtaining evidence of coal fly ash content in weather modification (geoengineering) through analyses of postaerosol spraying rainwater and solid substances. Ind. J. Sci. Res. and Tech. 2016;4:30-36.


In the midst of official denial and misrepresentation, one can deduce from physical effects the purposes, if not the motives, for the near-daily, near-global coal fly ash tropospheric geoengineering. Aerosolized coal fly ash retards the fall of rain, at least until clouds become so overburdened that they let go with torrential downpours and storms. Coal fly ash makes atmospheric moisture more electrically conducting, which may be useful in military electromagnetic activities [69]. Coal fly ash sprayed into the troposphere heats the atmosphere, and retards heat loss from Earth’s surface thus enhancing global warming. As coal fly ash settles to the ground, its typically dark gray color absorbs sunlight and alters albedo, again enhancing global warming [66].

69. Bertell R. Planet earth, the latest weapon of war: A critical study into the military and the environment. The Women’s Press: London; 2000.

Dr Herndon’s remarks in the above last paragraph certainly are incriminating about global warming being a man-made (anthropogenic) tragedy, along with an experiment all humans are forced to participate in unknowingly, unwillingly and in defiance of the Nuremberg Code [4].

In the Conclusions of his article, Dr Herndon offers these bone-chilling remarks:

Tropospheric aerosolized particulates, evidenced as coal fly ash, inhibit rainfall, heat the atmosphere, and enhance global warming. Evidence obtained from an accidental aerial release of an engineered material indicates there is an effort to melt glacial ice and thus enhance global warming. By ignoring ongoing tropospheric geoengineering, the IPCC climate assessments as well as the moral authority of the United Nations are compromised.

Fig. 7. Three aircraft flying simultaneously in the same physical environment in which contrail formation is possible in the air above Tucson, Arizona (USA) in 2011. Note that two display short contrails characteristic of rapid ice evaporation. The lengthy trail across the sky is not a contrail – otherwise it would have evaporated as quickly, and been as short, as the other two. Rather, the long trail is formed by emplaced particulate matter. Courtesy of Bornfree and Russ Tanner [from Dr Herndon’s paper]

Dr Herndon’s latest paper is written in scientific language.  However, I encourage readers to ‘plough’ through it, as it explains much of what needs to be understood about how not only weather is being manipulated, but science, the environment and humans, as a result of clandestine mechanisms.  I wish more humans were interested enough to oppose what’s happening to us and our beloved planet.

Thank you, Dr Herndon, for your unfailing scientific efforts.


[1] Article:

In Spanish:


[3] Press Release:

In Spanish:


  1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.
  2. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
  3. The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study, that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.
  4. The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
  5. No experiment should be conducted, where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
  6. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
  7. Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
  8. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
  9. During the course of the experiment, the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end, if he has reached the physical or mental state, where continuation of the experiment seemed to him to be impossible.
  10. During the course of the experiment, the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgement required of him, that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.

Catherine J Frompovich (website) is a retired natural nutritionist who earned advanced degrees in Nutrition and Holistic Health Sciences, Certification in Orthomolecular Theory and Practice plus Paralegal Studies. Her work has been published in national and airline magazines since the early 1980s. Catherine authored numerous books on health issues along with co-authoring papers and monographs with physicians, nurses, and holistic healthcare professionals. She has been a consumer healthcare researcher 35 years and counting.

Catherine’s latest book, published October 4, 2013, is Vaccination Voodoo, What YOU Don’t Know About Vaccines, available on

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59 Comments on "Climate Change And Geoengineering Deceptions"

  1. The power to tax is the power to destroy. The whole point of taxing CO2 is to destroy its output. Anything humanly connected to CO2 must be removed from the planet. That’s falls right inline with the eugenics goals of the New World Order. 99.999% population reduction. That’s the root of all this climate change malarkey.

  2. They are poisoning the air, earth and water. The animals will be the first to start dying off.
    The worthless EPA will not do anything about it.
    I hope they come to their idiocracy induced reality and take the blue pill.
    Our taxes at work.

    • Actually it’s the trees that are dying. Whole mountainsides of trees are brown in Canada and the western States. People accept the “official” story that the trees are being attacked by the bark beetle but the beetles don’t attack healthy trees.

      • William Burke | April 30, 2017 at 4:00 pm | Reply

        You may very well be right. But the variety of the tree species might reveal another possibility.

        For instance, the life expectancy for both cottonwoods and aspens is about 70-100 years. Because of the prevalence of forest fires in the American west, entire mountainsides have trees that are the same age – because the trees all started out anew at the same time when the prevailing forestation was destroyed by fire.

        I am not saying you are wrong and I am right; I am only saying there may be alternate explanations in play.

      • Common Sense | May 2, 2017 at 7:41 am | Reply

        I noticed this more than 5 years ago and gave warning to those who would listen, ( both of them)
        Seriously though, the trees are the proverbial canary we should be watching. There are those either so lost or intentionally complicit that they defend the criminality of this spraying operation.
        Any reason or fact given to those is pearls before swine. Don’t waste your time.
        Another point I had tried to make with many, and is mentioned below by another commenter, is the fact there are no pilots in these aircraft. It’s all automated. Perceived authority has made many claims as to the what and why. Reflective layer in the stratosphere for communications / radar, shielding from the suns rays for planet dimming/global warming. The reasons do not matter as the affect and or side affects are proving to be too detrimental, and could turn catastrophic if sun dimming is the ultimate reason. We could very easily start another mini ice age as sun dimming could start a domino effect that cannot be reversed or even stopped.
        The temperatures drop causing snow, which reflects sunlight back and it gets colder feeding into its own viscous cycle.

  3. Contrails in picture are perfectly normal. The caption is deceptive, or more accurately, bald face stupidity.

    The aircraft are at different altitudes.

    Atmosphere is layered like an onion. Relative humidity/saturation point varies greatly at different altitudes.

    Water vapor is produced by hydrocarbon combustion in the engine, and exhausted into the air which locally raises relative humidity, sometimes exceeding dew point, causing visible moisture to precipitate.

    The lower troposphere characteristicly has much higher relative humidity than the next higher layer, the stratosphere, which is very dry. The long contrail is in lower troposphere, and the much higher short contrails are likely in the stratosphere where additional moisture is insufficient to exceed saturation point or to sustain a static “cloud,” or contrail.

    Dew point often varies greatly with altitude within the troposphere itself. Varying characters of contrails is no indication whatsoever of anything other than varying local atmospheric conditions, which can vary significantly with even minor changes of altitude.

    So to reiterate, ignoring science to advance conspiracy claims is nothing more than bald face stupidity.

    It is a simple matter to charter a plane, fly up there right into those contrails and take air samples to prove your theory!

    Isn’t it funny that the “chemtrail” nuts haven’t gone to the trouble?

    • wake up fool.

      • My comments are correct

        If it is not important enough to pay for a chartered jet to take first hand air samples, and produce the results to the public and prove your claims, then there are surely plenty of your Eco-Jet Set Hollywood types that would happily let you use theirs for your urgent cause, free of charge.

        Until then, you have no case. Produce the science.

        All three planes in that photo are at different altitudes and atmospheric conditions.

        Having created contrails for over 30 years, I know what they are, how they’re formed, why they differ, and the why and how every of the countless formations, grid patterns, etc., form.

        All perfectly normal. Herndon bald face lied.

        • I don’t disagree that the photo is showing contrails. I have a photo from the 1940’s in a book, The Cloud Atlas, it shows what people call chemtrails today however they are “persistent contrails”.
          However the only man made climate change today is done intentionally via geo-engineering. Sorry I wasn’t clearer.

          • It appears that you are assuming that anthropogenic global warning (AGW) theory is occurring. (Not)

            You further assume that man’s pinprick actions could effect it even if he tried. And also assume there is a massive effort underway to do just that, without everybody noticing.

            You do, of course, understand how many square miles are on the earth’s surface right. And I’m sure you further understand that particulates are continuously captured as hygroscopic nuclei and rained out of the atmosphere by the 20-40 thousand thunderstorms underway at any particular time, so few particulates remain airborne for very long.

            If by chance some sort of particulate spreading we’re to be considered remotely feasible, considering the square mileage, and continuous re-application required due to the natural cleansing of the air, I recommend an open ended unlimited balance credit card to buy fuel for the continuous operation of the at least 50,000 high speed, high useful load aircraft that would be required.

            Oh, stealth too, to keep it a secret from the world.

          • HardcoreChemtard | May 22, 2017 at 2:46 pm |

            The reason those planes left persistent contrails is due to the fact that they had to inject water into the intakes to cool the charge air to prevent engine knock. Nowadays engines not only don’t need that or do that on jet aircraft but they are high bypass turbofan engines and get thrust not from the engine exhaust itself but by driving a massive fan which provides about 80% of the thrust. It is almost impossible for these engines, which are fitted to practically every jet powered aircraft these days, to produce a contrail – much less a persistent one.

          • Utterly false.

            You are laughably clueless. In fact you are perpetuating outright lies! If you have to LIE to advance your BOGUS chemtrail PROVABLY FALSE CLAIMS, it is not worth advancing.

            In the same conditions, it is IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT NOT TO PRODUCE A CONTRAIL you idiot!

            There is NO DIFFERENCE between the contrails made by today’s high bypass turbofan engines, and jets of the past.

            The turbojet core produces 100% of the total thrust of a high bypass turbofan engine! Some of the forward thrust comes from powering the fan, some from tailpipe exhaust. Percent distribution is IRRELEVANT to the contrail formation.

            2000 pounds per hour, say, of fuel required for operation produces the same water vapor rich exhaust regardless of where that energy is directed – to the fan or out the tailpipe or powering internal systems or generators, etc.

            Where do you think that exhaust, full of water vapor goes?

            Where? Name it!

            You argument isn’t even logical! And it is LIGHT YEARS from scientific accuracy!

            Naive and foolish is what it is.

    • BigMamaCougarPurr | April 30, 2017 at 1:39 pm | Reply

      If you could stop huffing toxic laundry chemicals 24/7 you might reacquire the sense of smell you lost from poison induced brain damage. Then you could smell the stink in the air when they spray that crap you think isn’t real.

      The Carnicom Institute has tested the air, as well as many other scientists.

    • well guys/gals he does kinda have a point here. Why hasn’t anyone sampled these “chemtrails” Im not saying one way or the other till then but lets get some facts up 1st. Also your altitude explanation makes sense as well too.

      • William Burke | April 30, 2017 at 4:13 pm | Reply

        Maybe you did a search and found reference to many such analyses and you are bluffing your garbage hand through, or maybe you’re the kind who never looks anything up before running off at the mouth.

        Whichever it is, you did or did not find articles such as:

      • Common Sense | May 2, 2017 at 8:00 am | Reply

        They have. How do you think they have been able to accurately define the chemical composition, not to mention the sprayers patent including its mechanical and engineering sketches are available to review online.
        All of this proof is available but there are those complicit in the lying or cannot be bothered with the facts because their mind is made up.

        • Common Sense | May 2, 2017 at 8:15 am | Reply

          Another point or observation that is very important is, why should it matter so much to Ro2 ??? If we are all, how did he put it, chemtrail nuts, what we write shouldn’t matter, yet this person is going out of their way to shoot down every commenter. Motive, motive motive.
          I don’t believe in the flat earth, but I don’t waste my time by visiting their sites and try to condemn or convert. I’m secure in my knowledge and let them believe what they want to believe.

          • Common Sense | May 2, 2017 at 8:21 am |

            Besides, I suspect Ro2 is REALLY Dale Ruff in disguise, and WE ALL KNOW ABOUT DALE.

        • ok where do the flights originate? Do they file flight plans? Can we see the flight plans online? What are they filed under?

          • HardcoreChemtard | May 22, 2017 at 2:48 pm |

            Air Force bases. But now commercial aircraft are also retrofitted. And guess what – often the have transponders turned off. You can see a few videos of near collisions with the idiots in military tanker jets with commercial jets. Often you also cannot find a flight plan for them. This has been verified by numerous people. My favorite is when a big tanker spraying trails like a huge cooling tower are flying at altitude with other jets and they are leaving not a bit of condensation trail. These cases may also be verified. One can look at the temps me humidity at the aircraft’s altitude as well and determine immediately that it could not possibly be leaving a contrail. The conditions are very specific and those conditions often don’t exist when that jet flying over is belching out “contrails”.

          • I would say link to a picture but I lack the skills to spot a well done photoshop.

          • transponders off? Airforce bases? commercial aircraft? what’s next donald trump on airforce one?

        • Utter BS. Hasn’t been done. You’ve been scammed.

          The only composition you’ll find, IF ever done, is that resulting from by products of combusted jet fuel. Essentially kerosene sometimes with anti-icing anti-microbial additives to prevent fuel starvation.

          Your “patents” may exist, but are not in use on jets flying around daily as you imply.

          First, no specialized nozzle would even be needed. It would be a waste of money! You expel liquid into a 250 mph airstream, even from a 3″ pipe as in say, fuel dumping, it atomizes virtually instantaneously! So your so-called “chemtrail nozzle” patent is something other than you represented.

          How does this nozzle differ from say, one for mosquito spraying? Crop dusting? Oil dispersant spraying after an oil spill? Fire retardant spraying?

          Tell everybody here how this nozzle differs! Then tell them how YOU know!

          Please folks, have a little sense.

          • 250mph would be too slow. more like 400 to 450mph

          • No, at high altitude the effective airflow (indicated airspeed) is in the 200’s despite a no-wind groundspeed, or “true airspeed” of say, 450 +/-.

            This is due to further distance between air molecules, due to significantly lower atmospheric pressure.

            At sea level on std. day, true airspeed will equal indicated airspeed. Not at altitude.

            It is indicated airspeed that reflects the dynamic pressure on the aircraft.

          • ok my bad. Is that taking into account
            jet streams of 150mph?:)

          • Wind has no effect on airspeed. Remember, the plane is moving with the wind as well. All it “sees” is still air.

            Wind affects ground speed, but not indicated airspeed.

            Imagine a balloon in the jet stream. Its passenger would feel no wind in his hair, despite the speed across the ground of the ocean of air he’s floating in.

          • BTW .. Excellent observation, attention to detail. The differences of various airspeeds and their applicability is among the most confusing, sometimes counter intuitive concepts initially, until thought about or studied a bit.


    • HardcoreChemtard | May 22, 2017 at 2:43 pm | Reply

      Four words for you to think about and then get back to us: High Bypass TurboJet Engines.

      If you think what’s in the sky is contrails then you cannot be helped. Perhaps you are too young to recall what the sky really looks like. It’s blue, really deep blue. Not washed out blue-white.

      • The different shades of blue in otherwise similar lighting conditions are caused by differences in relative humidity. Moisture in the atmosphere. Period. Dark blue occurs today as it did yesteryear.

        Take a picture after a warm front has passed, and another after a cold front has passed, at similar times of day. You might be dismayed.

        I’ve operated high bypass turboFAN (actual name) engines for over 35 years. I’ve also disassembled and reassembled them. They are pure turbojets at the core with extended foreword stage compressor blades providing the bypass, or fan air. Nothing more.

        They produce the same contrails you saw in your youth. No different.

        It is water vapor condensate. Irrefutably. Period. End of story.

        You apparently know nothing about the atmosphere, or jets. But now you know more about contrails and shades of blue.

      • The different shades of blue in the sky in otherwise similar lighting conditions are caused by differences in relative humidity. Moisture in the atmosphere. Period. Dark blue occurs today as often as it did yesteryear.

        The very reason the sky appears blue at all is due to water vapor. The water vapor CAUSES the blue. Ever notice the sky is black from space? Pilots of SR-71 spy planes at say 70,000 feet see a very, very dark blue sky due to much less water vapor above them.

        The more the atmospheric water vapor contained in the air you’re looking through, the lighter/hazier the blue. That is NOT a characteristic of other things in the air, like dust, or say…. chemicals!

        Although microscopic dust is what the precipitated water collects on, it is the water itself causing the blue and atmospheric haze. (Smoke is a different subject.)

        Take a picture when the sky clears after a drizzly warm front has passed (warmer, higher moisture content), and another after a cold front has passed (colder, lower moisture content), at similar times of day, and compare. You might be dismayed at the stark light/dark difference. You’ll also notice a difference in clarity of stars at night for the same reason.

        I suggest you put that “lighter skies than it used to be” nonsense to rest. It’s foolish.

  4. According to member of the Italian parliament, BP/Exxon/Mobile are responsible for the Chemtrails. Solar energy could destroy their monopoly. By preventing sunlight from reaching the earth, they get rid of competition. Moreover, Monsanto can have along with ChemChina a monopoly on all food. MonSatan is a subsidiary of Pfizer which will merge with Bayer. Think of the profits to be made from those who get cancer, asthma, Alzheimer’s, etc…Mechanization & Robotics make 75% of our population obsolete. 25% unemployment is awesome for the 1%-keeps the wages down. 75% can create revolution. Sadly I think the world & all its beautiful creatures & trees will come to an end in our lifetime. TV has trained people to be passive and not cause waves. If you want to make a difference. Check out FB: Chemtrails Fightback

    • William Burke | April 30, 2017 at 3:51 pm | Reply

      Goodness. You are as short-sighted as they are. Neither of you has taken into account the planet’s over-engineered, redundant self-corrective mechanisms.

      Sure, might kill some people. Might kill a lot, but chemtrail activities already have sent us in that direction.

    • William Burke | May 1, 2017 at 5:48 am | Reply

      It has a follow-the-money logic behind it, but I don’t think we have enough information yet. On Scott Stevens’ new site (can’t think of the name, it’s too early to remember, but not the old WEATHER WARS site) he has a photo he found from the late 1950s that shows a chemtrail. The photo is authenticated.

      If true, it would suggest not oil countries but a governmental identity behind it, and that is the theory I still favor. And the apparent fact of global dimming since at least the 1960s seems to mesh with the idea of chemtrails starting much earlier than most people realize.

  5. “The Nuremberg Code” Right. Like that’s ever gonna happen.
    But seriously: We should totally eliminate the whole process of “voting” for political “representatives” because it is so blisteringly obvious that they do not represent us at all.
    It would make much more sense to vote with our taxes: Every tax form has a list of places where our money goes, and we check the boxes we want. Voila! We’ve truly voted.
    But, like the Nuremberg Code, like that’s ever gonna happen.

    • William Burke | April 30, 2017 at 3:36 pm | Reply

      Since voting has proved ineffectual against everything but income confiscation, maybe we should try choosing our leaders randomly, lottery-style.

      We certainly don’t stand to lose much, if anything, by doing so. I tend to think we’d see an improvement.

      • I like that idea. It doesn’t really matter who’s in any political office.

        • William Burke | May 1, 2017 at 5:35 am | Reply

          It certainly drives the point home, doesn’t it?

          It’s by no means a new idea, but I’ve noticed quite a few more people arguing for it lately. Since power attracts control freaks up to and including full-blown psychopaths, choosing a name randomly from voter registration lists will actually tend to filter those people out, to a certain extent.

          • I am happy to see this idea being discussed. Long ago I suggested this method in a paper I wrote for a sociology class in college, and my professor responded in this way: Great idea, but you’re talking Utopia.
            I thought to myself, So? (I got an A though.)
            But, like that’s ever gonna happen. We are not in control.

          • William Burke | May 1, 2017 at 11:57 am |

            Saying “we are not in control” is a cop-out. We CAN be in control, if we have a mind to do the hard work and take the risks to regain control.

            Taking a step away from the line takes courage. Saying the emperor is naked takes courage. Saying the things that are unpopular with your friends and associates takes courage. Sometimes it’s lonely as hell.

            And I have to disagree with your professor. How is electing leaders by lottery “utopian”, other than the fact it takes the game away from those who are most invested in it.

            In the sixties movie PUTNEY SWOPE by Robert Downey Sr., an ad agency takes a vote to elect a new chairman of the board. Everyone, unbeknownst to the rest, votes for the agency’s lone black man, named Putney Swope. It’s a guilt-ridden vote, but no one imagines anyone else would do the same thing.

            It’s highbrow comedy of the best kind. And it has nothing to do with the subject here. I just remembered it out loud. 😉

          • Wow! I never imagined you’d tear me a new one for saying that.

            Think about it for a moment. Are we in control? Really, are we? How is it a cop-out to say so? It is a statement of fact. To deny it is the cop-out.

            The mere existence of chem-trails is proof we are not in control.

            Now, I do agree with you that we CAN be in control. We can be in control of our own minds. That alone is within our power. It is the one thing the government does not want us to do. And it is the one thing they work hardest at.

            And, you are right; it takes work, strength and courage.

            This means being aware of the fact we are not in control, and questioning why. Knowing the means of control is like immunization against it.

            Public denial of the existence of chem-trails alone is a particularly perplexing example of mind control. How many are willing to argue that chem-trails do not exist? How many don’t even look up?
            It boggles the mind.

            But the good news is that it only boggles the uncontrolled mind.
            Those whose minds are controlled don’t think twice.

            We can eventually gain control over our minds, one at a time, and then, in time, over our government, or, perhaps even eliminate government altogether.
            “Government” MEANS mind control (gov = control + ment = mind).

            As far as what my professor said. Take it with the same grain of salt as you asked me to take PUTNEY SWOPE. (I did not see that movie, but I will.)

            Thank you for your diligence. It is a virtue and I salute you.

          • William Burke | May 1, 2017 at 3:27 pm |

            “Tear you a new one”? Really?

          • Yes, really.
            Or did you not mean to accuse me of copping out?

          • William Burke | May 1, 2017 at 7:04 pm |

            Oh, it’s a cop-out, all right. But if I were to “tear you a new one”, it would be plain and unambiguous. Why so thin-skinned?

          • Common Sense | May 2, 2017 at 7:54 am |

            One of the inherent problems of the internet.
            We cannot see body language, hear tone and inflection. Text alone can easily be misunderstood, and even if there are disagreements we have lost the ability to respectfully agree to disagree and glean positive value from our different views.
            This is why, as a people, we are unable to unite right now and collectively formulate an effective plan of ACTION to respond to the ever growing corruption.
            This DIVISION is being heavily promoted right now, as a tactic of conquering.
            Look at the comments section of other popular websites/MSM, yahoo, google, etc.
            There is so much juvenile fighting it sounds like an out of control playground, never realizing that their fellow COMMON man is not their enemy.

          • William Burke | May 2, 2017 at 12:44 pm |

            I agree.

      • Sci-Fi author Robert A. Heinlein suggested in some his books the idea that all American politics ought to be filled by a lottery, all the way across the board for the Federal gov’t. First the children have to actually be educated well, so as to make them knowledgable enough to effectively fill an office, and second, this would eliminate the need for term limits as well as career politicians. Instead people who DON’T want the job would be drawn by lottery and be required to fill the office for whatever specified term, all while knowing that after that term they would be replaced and be able to go back to civilian life. I have always thought this a great idea and one that could effectively combat corruption. I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t impressed that someone else finally brought this idea up! Well said!

        • William Burke | May 1, 2017 at 5:37 am | Reply

          I had forgotten whose idea it was originally. Thanks for giving Heinlein his due credit.

  6. Way to go Marv!! He should of contested the last at least 2 times his paper was reviewed and retracted by totally uncredentialed and unqualified people! I was banned from Wiggington’s site for pointing out how stupid it was to publish Marv’s paper before it was peer reviewed and published. My thoughts are this hindered getting this research paper out, by alerting the powers that shouldn’t be!

  7. THE FREE ENERGY REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN. Please spread the word.

  8. Is this why a $20million Harvard program to block the sun was ‘disclosed’?

    Since public silence is consent, we need to inform as many people as possible about this Harvard program, and speak up to un-consent.

  9. Don’t let these folks try to tell you jets have been chartered to actually go up and take samples of contrails for analysis! That HAS NOT been done.

    Until they go up there and take samples to prove the claims of CONTRAILS being instead “chemtrails”, it remains pure, 100%, theory… fact free, unsubstantiated conspiracy THEORY!

  10. After years of observation, it is my conclusion that as in the image showing a long, thick chemical trail and two ‘condensation’ trails, the short trails are actually quickly evaporating catalyst substances to mix with the base trail. Too often I see this formation. They are all high-arching rocket-deployed drones, never regular aircraft.

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