The oligarchy runs our society with Problem – Reaction – Solution. If anything, these leaks have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the two-party system is an illusion and the whole construct is one huge pay-for-play corporate sham. Obamacare was always meant to destroy the private health care system and usher in single-payer, government run socialist medicine. It was designed that way… and it’s “working”.
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Yes, this creation of the Heritage Foundation, pushed by Repubs and some Dems for windfall profits just like Medicare D, first tested under Romney Care with endorsement from WS opinion pages as a national plan, and implemented as a Romney national plan, for people to pay premiums where none were previously collected, performed by the Obama administration, in a two party system of fabricated differences but with the same goal, was designed to fail. Just as offense is defense, lies are truth, slavery is freedom… Soon, “people” will replace pets for the .01%. The pets will get their consumption money. Those that don’t want to play by their rules will face a global CHEKA force to keep the pets in check.
An American’s view of the UK’s National Health Service (NHS), prior to its “reform” – i.e. before cuts and dismantling of its social components with a view to creating a pre-Obamacare style health service:
When I lived in the UK, I railed against the NHS. I cursed every delay, every perceived inconvenience, every way it differed from the care I had received in the US. But I moved to the UK only a few months after graduating from university and, until then, I had been covered on my parents’ very generous insurance so I had experienced American healthcare only as a dependent.
the truth was that I believed in the healthcare system I had grown up in and I didn’t like the idea of socialised medicine — I didn’t like socialised anything — so I saw problems with it where-ever I chose to look. And I held onto that belief right up until I arrived back in the United States, and discovered that grumpy receptionists and dirty hospital bathrooms and annoying carparks can happen in any system — because they have nothing to do with the system itself. They’re management issues, human nature issues, and they happen everywhere.
Unlike the health systems in France, Germany, and most of the rest of the developed world, it is totally government-run, almost totally centrally-controlled, and supported entirely through taxation.
– My healthcare in the UK was never dictated by a bureaucrat. Decisions were made by me and my doctor alone
– The scope of care available to me was far, far wider than what is covered even by the ‘very good’ insurance policies I’ve had here in the US. There were no limits on the number of times I could see my doctor, or the number of tests/procedures/consultations/etc that I could have in a year
– Delays: In the UK, I might have to wait weeks or months to see a specialist if my case was not urgent, and that was frustrating. Here in the US, when I was in excruciating pain last year (so bad that I lost control of my bodily functions when the pain hit), I was referred to a breast surgeon by the ER doctor (7 hour wait in ER) — but the trouble is that we had to call five medical centers before we could find a surgeon who could see me any sooner six weeks, and even then it was only because they had a surprise cancellation.
– I had my choice of doctors and I could change GPs at anytime for any reason. And I always had the option of a second opinion, either through another NHS doctor or a private doctor.
– I never once received a bill in the UK. There are no copays, there are no deductibles, there is no such thing as max-out-of-pocket. I have an NHS card which I showed at my GP’s office when I registered, and from that point on, I never had to fill out any forms or show any ID ever again. … Yes, Brits pay to cover it in their taxes, but the cost spread across the entire country and so it isn’t nearly the burden that insurance is for Americans. In fact, Brits spend only 8.4% of GDP on healthcare, compared to the 16% of GDP spent by Americans and what they get back is a system beats the US on so many basic measures of healthcare results.
– Because healthcare is not tied to employment, companies are free to focus on their core business and people are free to make career decisions (and life decisions) based on what is best for them instead of what preserves their healthcare.
– They are much freer to be entrepreneurs than Americans, because their only worry is whether their business will succeed, not how they’re going to provide healthcover for their families when they’re self-employed.
– Small companies, are free to focus on their core-business because they not burdened by the administration of healthcare for their employees — they never have to pay someone in HR to manage health benefits; they don’t have to juggle insurance companies and negotiate lower premiums; they don’t lose employees because their healthplan isn’t as good as some other company; they don’t see their bottom line rocked by a sudden rise in premiums.
– When things go wrong, the government answers to the people in a way that insurance companies never do. For example, there was a cancer drug called Herceptin which was not covered on the NHS because of the cost. A group (led by Ann Marie Rogers) began a campaign to change this, suing their local health trust, and gained huge public support. They ultimately won their case and got their local trust to offer the drug — but because of the political pressure this campaign had created, the government extended the drug to the entire country. Imagine trying to convince an American insurance company to cover some expensive drug that they don’t want to cover, and then having that decision convince every other insurance company to do the same.
Full article: https://potentialandexpectations.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/this-americans-experience-of-britains-healthcare-system/
And another American’s view of the UK’s NHS:
As for how likely a patient is to die for want of life-saving services: I wouldn’t choose to take my chances in the US, given that I’m not a millionaire. A close friend of mine recently discovered she had a fast-growing mass on her ovary that would lead to swift death if it wasn’t removed within the month. It sounds like a no-brainer, but before she scheduled the surgery she had to count the costs: her insurance company agreed to cover 80% (after much pressure from her doctors to get the company to cover it at all), but she would be responsible for the remainder – a sobering $40,000. She’s alive today, but she’ll spend many years working extra hours to pay off the loan she took out just to stay alive.
30% of healthcare spending in the US is absorbed by bureaucracy – nearly twice the proportion that other industrialized countries spend. This is rather strange, given that the chief justification for private healthcare is that it suffers less bureaucracy. It turns out that exactly the opposite is true.
But can it be financially viable? – Again the evidence defies assumptions. The Commonwealth study confirms that the cost the UK pays for delivering the best healthcare in the world is less than any other industrialized nation: only $3,405 per capita. The most expensive healthcare system, by contrast, is the US, at $8,508 per capita – more than double the UK, while delivering much worse results.
But ultimately it’s not the extrinsic values of efficiency, timeliness, and low cost that make the NHS great. The NHS is great because it’s built on the principles of solidarity, universality, and equality – and because it is staffed by people who believe deeply in its basic moral mission. It is for these reasons that, when the NHS was founded in 1948, the Minister for Health Aneurin Bevan famously proclaimed that it was “the most civilized step that any country has ever taken.”
https://www.opendemocracy.net/ournhs/jason-hickel/take-it-from-american-britain's-nhs-is-as-good-as-it-gets
Hi Veri Tas. A centralized safety net set up for the right reasons and not Rockefeller type medicine could potentially be a good thing for humanity. We don’t have that, generally, despite the well meaning folks who serve the system…including the providers, many of whom are close friends of mine yet they too acknowledge their hands are tied. The ideal would be a safety net, however large with purely altruistic goals, to supplement a true free market system with few layers between providers and patients. In the US circa 1960s, there was still an aspect of this market system still working and some physicians writing about this cite examples of very low fees for surgeries and delivering babies. The latter of which was only $150 or so to include all charges and a generous hospital stay for mom and baby to recover. These kinds of charges were affordable and didn’t require health insurance. Some physicians in the US have set up some concierge practices, no insurance middle man, and their office fees are less than half of the standard rate, as low as $50 for a basic visit with more quality time spent with their patients. When there is only one system and via regulation eventually few alternatives allowed to exist, then our choices are limited and mandatory rules (e.g. vaccination, Codex Alimentarius) can creep in.
‘Beauty & Brains’…Gr8 combo(lol)…luv yer Gravatar ….I decided a long time ago that I have absloutely zilch nada nothing to hide …..cheers
Thanks, not fond of BLN default mustache. lol I’ve tried to keep it boring, fact based, about the issues…not personal, ya know. 😉 Cheers
I get ya.
A major agenda item behind the Affordable Care Act was the implementation of the Total Information Awareness program, which was specifically voted down by congress, but the proponents of it decided to do an end-run around our legislatos, and used the ACA as a way to do so.
the implementation problems they had at the beginning was because this was being used to normalized 37 different databases, which had many duplicate, false, or error-laden IDs in them.
Thank you for pointing this out, I almost did myself, very important info and well said
Thanks. Did you intend to not let people follow you, or see you other postings?
You’re the second person asking me recently. I just changed my settings. Thanks for the nudge. Felt funny to have anyone looking over my shoulder, the panopticon. Makes sense though in the spirit of open source sharing.
btw, a recap of my global perspective is here in a reply to Mark on this thread: https://www.activistpost.com/2016/10/nato-us-uk-assemble-largest-troop-buildup-russian-border-since-cold-war.html
So they made us pay massive amounts of money for our original healthcare system, then they want our recrods and other information so they try to turn it socialist? Instead of just making it affordable through regulations and what not they decided to take the whole cake and get all the information…. wow. thats some good sheep herding
I’m not convinced VeriTas.
I am convinced of the need for competition amongst the insurance companies.
I am convinced of the need for companies to divest themselves of insurance.
I am convinced of the need for each individual to seek their own style of health care.
What I don not want is:
the Beastsystem telling me what to eat and how much I can eat.
the Beastsystem telling me that I must get their disease causing *vaccines.
the Beastsystem telling me that I must see their docs.
the Beastsystem outlawing holistic and others they do not accept.
the Beastsystem telling me i may not smoke (I don’t but you have that right).
the Beastsystem telling me, because I am too old or too fat or too out of shape (etc) I must go to the last room and no water.
So no thanks.
*see: nagalase,gcmaf,cas9/crispr, glysophate, sv40, human tissue, adjuvants and a host of other chemicals that kill the auto immune system.
THEYareDSEPICABLE
Last 2 years 60% increase, 1st year 40% increase in MN! “It’s called affordable” is what that douche bag Pelosi said! Know wonder the debt doubled in 8 years!
and the old hag will probably get voted in again, because CA. doesn’t care about our country thats why if trump gets in, he should build the wall from oregon to the southern border of texas.
Mike
that’s a good idea! Wall out the to stupid to understand anything! I hear there’s a lot of stupid people in Portland and Seattle too.
In current system, ins is allowed to dictate treatment decisions during doctor visits and hospital care, even if they are claimed as “scheduled benefits”. Of course, you are allowed to appeal. . . Family member developed pneumonia soon after gall bladder surgery. After 12 days, Blu cro$$ denied ongoing treatment plan requested by ICU Panel. Twenty-six days total of intensive care = respiratory failure, TOD – 11:42. You can’t know how broken the system is until it happens to you.
Conceded have thee?