Candidates Ready to Trash Constitution to Fight ISIS: “Time To Put Life Ahead of Civil Liberties”

isis_constitutionBy Mac Slavo

Never mind who poked at the hive and stirred up an angry storm. Those are lessons of blowback for those with memory and perspective.

Right now the reactionary fervor is all that matters. Indeed, it is difficult to focus on much else.

In hindsight, the nation became sick and tired of the wars and the fear over terrorism under the reign of Bush 43. But in the moment, people embraced it – and that’s the danger again.

There is no clear or rational thought under fear of attack.

Under the auspices of retribution for 9/11, George W. Bush and his neocon advisors launched a roaming War on Terror that brought conflict to entire regions, and didn’t blink at bending the rules or trampling on constitutional rights. Spying, surveillance, intimidation, snitching, databasing, airport pat-downs, stop and frisk on the streets and more were all tolerated and even embraced. It was rule by fear.

The narrative didn’t add up, but that didn’t matter until later for most. People began to regret the powers granted via the PATRIOT Act to the NSA and to the executive branch to indefinitely detain anyone they declared an enemy combatant. The slide down the slippery slope was accelerating at a queasy pace.

Today, new threats from ISIS are dragging the United States dangerously close to this point again.

The one-man show that is Donald Trump, who quickly made a mockery of the GOP primary, is calling for databases and surveillance of all Muslim immigrants. Other GOP candidates are making similar proposals, eager to look toughest on this unfortunate issue. RT reports:

Donald Trump, running high in polls, proposes cataloging all Muslims living in the United States to ensure they are under constant surveillance.

“I would certainly implement that [keeping a register of Muslims]…absolutely,” Trump told NBC, adding that there are “a lot of systems, beyond databases” that could be implemented. “We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it,” Trump said, clearly with nod in the direction of the National Security Agency (NSA) and its unprecedented surveillance capabilities.

And though the policies of opening the doors to these “refugees” is deeply flawed – and indeed invites attack from jihadists or foreign enemies – the destruction of civil rights for this group will soon harm those of every American.

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It seems that someone, from one party or another, is eager to finish what Bush started, and Obama has quietly continued.

Hillary Clinton is now the only real nominee for the Democratic nomination; she has already sounded off on her plans for tougher policies and new strikes on ISIS and other targets overseas.

Now, one of her top donors, billionaire Haim Saban, has gone on the offensive, literally calling to curb civil liberties in order to meet the perceived threat of attack from ISIS. Mind you, this time, the country hasn’t even been attacked yet:

[B]illionaire entertainment mogul and major party donor Haim Saban, who donated a seven-digit sum to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, telling news website The Wrap it is high time to reconsider values and put life ahead of civil liberties.

Saban referred to those members of the Hollywood community who are fervently liberal and appear to value civil freedoms more than they value life.

“I disagree with that [liberal view]. You want to be free and dead? I’d rather be not free and alive,” Saban said, adding that at ‘a time of war’, interviewing Muslim refugees and migrants in a more intense way than Christians is acceptable, as well as “listening in on anyone and everybody who looks suspicious.”

If warhawks are pouring millions (and billions) into the Clinton campaign, you can imagine that they probably want a return for their money. None of this bodes well for the next four years … or any foreseeable time afterwards.

If the ‘terrorists hated us for our freedoms’ then, they should have little reason to target us now…

It is no exaggeration to say that the response by the U.S. government to the acts of terrorism, including those on September 11, have done far more destruction to its system of freedom and prosperity than bin Laden, 19 hijackers with box cutters, or drama queens from ISIS ever could.

Brandon Smith of Alt-Market has a great perspective on this – the bait and switch to convince Americans to sell their own birthright and volunteer for their own servitude.

Today, the people of the U.S. are less prosperous in real wealth, in income and in opportunities than at any other time in history. Nearly half of the country is directly dependent on the federal government benefits for day-to-day survival, and the disaster of foreign policy continues to eviscerate the Constitution and bring decline to the American empire – all while the population lives in fear and abject terror of what may come tomorrow.

A new darkness could be closing in.

No jobs, no independence, no freedom, no future – but if the government doesn’t get more power … well, conventional wisdom says it would be better to be enslaved than dead. Others know the wisdom and the strength of Liberty or death.

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51 Comments on "Candidates Ready to Trash Constitution to Fight ISIS: “Time To Put Life Ahead of Civil Liberties”"

  1. First of all,I am not a donald Trump supporter,not at all..But he did not say what you are claiming he said..It was a setup question and he was very broad in his answer.I have heard the audio and it is a huge stretch to say he would call for Muslim data bases or survallience data bases at all..This is a ploy to discredit Trump.This is what the MSM does,they lie and “create” a story or agenda…You guys are usually above this and I am shocked you kinda fell for it..I am no fan of Trump,but this is poor judgement to use this in this article

    • Here is what NBC, by whom Trump was interviewed states:

      NEWTON, Iowa — Donald Trump “would certainly implement” a database system tracking Muslims in the United States, the Republican front-runner told NBC News on Thursday night.

      “I would certainly implement that. Absolutely,” Trump said in Newton, Iowa, in between campaign town halls.

      “There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases,” he added. “We should have a lot of systems.”

      When asked whether Muslims would be legally obligated to sign into the database, Trump responded, “They have to be — they have to be.”

      Quoting Trump’s own words is hardly a ploy to discredit Trump by the MSM.

      • Taking his words out of context is what is to be expected from idiots and those who are afraid of him. Misquoting Trump’s own words is definitely a ploy by those of feeble mind and poor judgement.

        • NBC quoted Trump’s own words. You are a fool.

          • No NBC altered what Trump said. Oh sorry didn’t recognize the Trollness of you at first.

          • Anyone who would believe anything that NBC has to say (or even watches that channel) deserves no respect or recognition from the self aware world of normal people. Go play your schoolyard games somewhere else, sonny.

          • I quoted what Trump said, not NBC. You have been raped and think you have been asked to the prom. You have decended into the gutter of personal insults. How pathetic. Trump, an arrogant billionaire,now owns you. You are his slave.

          • 11Mic22hael33 | November 22, 2015 at 10:32 am |

            Good! He is right!

        • Thank you!!!

        • The context was hysterical anti-Muslim bigotry and his need to pander to the lowest level of American right wing Islamophobia. Trump repeated the same idea to severa media and you can to NBC and watch video where he says Muslims can be tracked “with good management.” He seems to have succeeded with you. I urge all to watch the NBC video hear Trump tell how Muslims will be tracked.

          • The only hysterical one around here is you. You sure must be afraid of Trump to pursue this totally worthless path of juvenile ridicule you’ve chosen. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

          • So you’re for more immigration into America? Why? We’ve already been weakened to the point that the posterity of our forefathers will eventually be wiped off the face of the earth (European Americans, who used to make up a powerful majority in this country but will become the minority in a few very short decades).

            Why are you for the genocide of your own people? You should learn about birth replacement rates and what our current birth rates are in Europe, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Russia. Once you’ve learned what the numbers are then educate yourself on population demographics. After that do a little math. You’ll quickly realize that the European race is being exterminated.

            You talk about bigotry while white people are being attacked on every front. Black university students are openly racist and hostile to all white people. They are asking for segregated “black spaces” on college campuses all over the United States. White people are suffering from the worst form of racism there is. The left are pushing diversity so hard that they are ethnically cleansing white people from the universities our forefathers built!

            Europe is under siege by a Muslim invasion, so is America and it’s people like you who are supporting it. Hypocritical to say the least and suicidal at best.

          • 11Mic22hael33 | November 22, 2015 at 10:27 am |

            These people are for the genocide of their own people because they are mentally ill. They are ETHNO-MASOCHISTS. Ethnomasochism is a mental disorder characterized by a HATRED for your own race. They were brainwashed from a very young age to be this way.

          • There is no such thing as ethno-masocism, because there is no such thing as race, except as a racist concept designed by ideologues seeking to justify enslaving Africans centuries ago.

            We are all one family. You are mentally ill.

          • How about simply tracking those that do not want to obey our Constitution, starting with all of Congress.

          • Trump should be tracked since he has advocated violating the Constitution, including claiming he would place a 35% tariff on cars built in Mexico (only Congress can place tariffs) and would “absolutely” track US citizens based on their Muslim faith (violates First Amendment). He should also be locked up for libel against Mexican immigants (“They are rapists.”). In fact, undocumented workers have a 30% lower crime rate than natives. Collective libel (as with Hitler, etc) is much more criminal than individual libel since it not only incites violence and discrimination but uses the fascist concept of collective guilt.

            I assume you agree.

          • I do sir All politicos ought to be hung.

          • Do you support stereotypes (ie bigotry) and collective guilt?

            In 2003, 97% of Republicans voted for war and 58% of
            Democrats (in Congress) voted against. Would you hang those who opposed the war along with those supported it?

          • I support hanging all politicians.

        • Trump was asked directly in a second interview if he really meant he would implement an all-Muslim database. He agreed that that would be “good management” and that they could find out whether or not people were Muslims from “different places”.

          Even Fox News admitted that.

    • There were two interviews with Trump where the database idea came up. The first one, where the all-Muslim database was suggested by a reporter, was ambiguous in that Trump could have just been talking about a database of refugees in the U.S. That’s the interview you’re referring to. But in the second interview, the reporter asked Trump directly if he meant an all-Muslim database, Trump said that that would “just be good management”. When the reporter asked how they would go about finding out how people were Muslims, if that meant something like going to mosques, Trump responded that they would look in “different places”.

  2. I am not a Trump supporter. If we trash the CONSTITUTION WE WILL NEVER GET THE Constitution back. Also to give up the constitution will not make us safer, just more reliable on the government. The bible says when they say peace and safety, then this world will have turmoil.

    • We mustn’t let the Constitution become a shield for those who seek to destroy it. Do you imagine Sharia Law embraces the principles of the US Constitution?

  3. “I disagree with that [liberal view]. You want to be free and dead? I’d rather be not free and alive,” Saban.

    “Give me liberty, or give me death!” is a quotation attributed to Patrick Henry from a speech he made to the Virginia Convention in 1775 (which swung the members to join the American Revolution).

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.'” Ben Franklin

    • Amen! Give me liberty or give me death. Thanks Patroit.

    • Are you aware that Patrick Henry was against the adoption of the constitution?

      • So were many of the Revolutionaries who signed the Declaration of Independence. Those who promoted state sovereignty, like Jefferson, Adams,and Paine were not welcome at the Constitutional Convention, which was a very group of men, 95% slave owners and opposed to the democratic values (equality and consent of the governed) of the Declaration.

        Are you aware the Constitution was designed to block the very values espoused in the Declaration?

        • It makes sense to me. The Constitution is a very ambiguous document and certainly not what our ancestors fought for. If it was worth the paper it was written on we wouldn’t be in this horrible situation we find ourselves in presently.

  4. At a time when Germany was most desperate, and in economic dire straights, came a man who said the things that they wanted to hear. He said they would rebuild again. They would become an economic power house. He would build up their armies, so they didn’t have to suffer the condemnation of previous wars? He got up in front of Germans and gave incredibly fiery speeches. He blamed a segment of their population for their problems. He won the vote.

    Trump is a desperate America’s adolf hitler! Sadly, he also seems to be our only hope. We are a nation divided, and because we let it be flooded with foreigners whose allegiances are somewhere else, we will never be united again!

    • We’re never going to change things by voting. The entire system is completely corrupt. Read the History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. The same things that took Rome down are taking the United States down. We’ve degenerated into a cess pool of moral degradation, our politicians are emptying the coffers of our treasury. Our military has been severely weakened by waging wars of empire and our enemies grow stronger with every passing day. If we do not take severe action now there won’t be anything left to rebuild.

      Trump is definitely not our only hope. None of them will do a damn thing to change things. Why do Americans continue to play the game the rich and powerful have created to enslave us with? It is insanity to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result. We’ve been voting them in and then voting them out for decades and the country continues to slide into chaos. We’re almost at the breaking point. Now is not the time to roll the dice and play their game once again. We need a reformation in America and we need it now.

    • Thinking that trump is our only hope is flawed as much as thinking “we the people” need the politicians.

      In fact they are the parasitic element that is destroying us from within.

      We do not need any of them, and they need us completely.
      Stop letting the parasites do a mind job on you.

      Dirty Dave’s comment below is exactly correct in his analogy.

      • It’s an old pattern political scientists have termed the Iron Law of Politics. Throughout history, in virtually every large society, eventually a predatory elite capture centralized institutions of control (e.g. governments). The only way to slow or prevent this from happening is to have a very well informed and highly vigilant citizenry, and absolute transparency. Thanks to worldwide propaganda, brainwashing, dumbing down, capture of the media, pervasive apathy, and narcissism, all nations are under the grip of parasitic elements.

  5. People forget that Trump is a shill for Israel. This is just what the globalists who control US/Israel (and the other Western governments want) — the infiltration of the Western countries with so-called ISIS terrorists to carry out planned false flag attacks on behalf of US/Israel in various Western cities; all political candidates are shills for Israel; they would not be running if they were not. Their purpose is to start WWIII to shore up the dollar; any shill or groups proposing these radical actions for more surveillance and elimination of civil liberties are most likely funded by US/Israel intelligence agencies; when will people finally wake up.

    • The only place I disagree with you is the idea that WWIII would somehow shore up the dollar. WWIII would be the final event in which they would use to bring about their New World Order. The dollar would cease to exist after such a horrible war. WWIII is the final play in their Hegelian handbook.

      • This is where we have the advantage and we don’t even realize it.
        They keep reading from the same flawed playbook.

        Know the book, and know their next move

      • TPTB want the dollar to be replaced with a global currency system. Making the US look even more rogue and reckless to the worlds’ sheeple will help to pave the way for the transition of a “more responsible” global authority. WWIII is already here in the form of the metastasizing Operation Cyclone 2.0 (ISIS), it’s the final war for our minds.

  6. There is no U.S. Constitution to trash.
    In 1803, the U.S. Supreme Court moved itself to be above the promised Limited Constitutional Republic.
    FDR and many others continued the destruction.
    On 2001-10-26, one of Prescott’s sons and one grandsons had the “patriot” act passed that overthrew the U.S. Bill of Rights which was the guarantee that had kept the U.S. Constitution in effect.
    With no U.S. Constitution, there is no U.S.A.
    In 2008, a usurper that was of mixed citizen birth, not natural born, was picked to finish off any part of the U.S.A. that appeared to remain.

  7. Same goal by the power-war-mongers, increased intensity, hoping that the false flags are not recognized. It isn´t working.

    • Actually, it is working very well. I don’t see any genuine outrage that threatens the elite power structure, do you? It’s going to take more then a few terrorist attacks to wake up the brainwashed and apathetic American and European peoples.

      • Good point !
        It was refreshing to notice how many persons immediately recognized the false-flag elements and posted comments on-line.

      • You’re exactly right Dave !!!
        Until I hear irrefutable proof that the criminals who have stolen power are being ARRESTED, INCARCERATED AND MORE IMPORTANTLY CONVICTED, then all else is lip service.


  8. FIRST OF ALL – THE MUSH FOR BRAINS – MUSLIM – IN – CHIEF HAS TO BE DEPOSED FRPOM HIS THRONE – THEN JOHN Q. PUBLIC CITIEN can come in and clean house . //////////////////////////////////////

  9. No Bull Nonofit | November 22, 2015 at 6:51 am | Reply

    Yep there are going to be repercussions in europe and America for arming isis to bring down Assad in Syria. But this is also part of the plan.

    • ISIS was created to stir up the global war on terror to rationalize global governance, global currency, global biometric ID (2030 Agenda, COP21), and more control and surveillance. By 2005, Syrian elites were deep into the global NWO neoliberal paradigm. If the western elites were intent on taking out Assad, then why were both Israel and the US quietly providing Iran with high tech military parts and support that was in turn being supplied to Syria? The alt media uses globalist elite insider General Wesley Clark’s “admission” that US elites intended to take down seven countries. Why would Clark admit this if he he works for TPTB, what was the subtle agenda? Recently Clark said anyone who disagrees / dissents with the US war on terror program should be placed in internment camps. We are being played with extremely elaborate deceptions.

  10. Richard_Throbbin | November 22, 2015 at 8:13 am | Reply

    The hypocrisy of the left wing communist never ceases to amaze. All for protecting certain parts of the US Constitution, when it supports their position, while generally trashing this great document time and time again

  11. “If you want total security, go to prison. There you’re fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking… is freedom.”

    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    “I know not what others may choose but, as for me, give me liberty or give me death.”

    Patrick Henry

    You are 10,000 times more likely to be killed by “doctors” (allelopathic deaths) than by terrorists.

  12. Trump is RIGHT! If a particular people are known to commit violence and murder against certain people and are doing it because their religion tells them to, then YES that particular people should be under constant watch. This would not infringe on the rights of everyone, only the people deserving of this treatment.

  13. They hate us for our freedoms??????? Lololol Then why not attack Sweden? What propaganda all of it. All to gain power and refusal to reform the financial and political arenas. They are bankrupt most of these Govts for promising things they could never pay for nor had any intention of. It’s sad that we are being duped all over again.

  14. Have you read the First Amendment? You should be tracked for advocating betraying the Constitution.

    Each year, about 12,000 native Americans murder each other. This is about 99.9% more than are killed, worldwide, by terrorists. “The March, 2011, Harper‘s Index noted:

    Number of American civilians who died worldwide in terrorist attacks last year: 8 —”

    According to securitydata, since 9/11 26 Americans have been killed by jihadists (mostly US citizens, as at Ft.Hood) and 48 have been killed by right wing attacks.

    Of terrorist attacks in the US, the majority are by right wing natives. These people should not be allowed to roam free. All right wing zealots yourself included.should be tracked.

  15. The number one most crippling result of liberal activism on US national and community security was their abolishment of criminal profiling. That’s one of the most and best tools against any kind of crime.

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