President Trump has revealed that American taxpayers will indeed pay for the proposed border wall on the nation’s southern border.
On Wednesday President Trump admitted that his plan for the construction of a wall along the southern border of the United States will be funded by domestic taxpayers. During the 2016 campaign Trump promised several times that he would force Mexico to pay for the wall.
Trump’s comments came in an interview with ABC News, his first interview since becoming President. ABC has only released a short clip of the interview and will air the full interview on the evening of January 25. In the clip we hear President Trump state that the project that will start “in months.”
When asked who would pay for the wall – Mexico or the American taxpayer – Trump confirmed that the taxpayer will fund the project that is estimated to cost somewhere between $15 to 25 billion. “Ultimately, it will come out of what’s happening with Mexico … and we will be in a form reimbursed by Mexico, which I’ve always said,” Trump said. He was referring to the claim that U.S. taxpayers will pay for the wall initially and later be reimbursed by a payment from the Mexican government. Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto has insisted that his nation won’t pay for the wall.
“All it is, is we’ll be reimbursed at a later date from whatever transaction we make from Mexico,” he said. “I’m just telling you there will be a payment. It will be in a form, perhaps a complicated form. What I’m doing is good for the United States. It’s also going to be good for Mexico. We want to have a very stable, very solid Mexico.”
Despite the claims that Americans will be reimbursed it would be wise to remain skeptical of the claims of Trump and his cabinet. Whether you want to admit it or not, Trump is a politician. He said many false claims to gain support and get himself where is today. Taxpayers will pay for the wall and they will not see that money again. But let’s imagine for a moment that Mexico does indeed reimburse the U.S. government. Do you really believe the federal government is going to send out a check to each taxpayer with a nice “thank you” note? No. If Mexico reimburses anyone it will be the U.S. government who forced their population to pay taxes to fund this totalitarian vision of a border wall.
The taxes that Trump will use to pay for this wall are taken from you through force. This means that if you do not pay your taxes armed agents of the government will come looking for you. If they are not satisfied they will steal more money from you or lock you in a cage. They might even attempt to kill you in an effort to forcibly collect fealty for the king and his court. So whether you support the border wall or not, if you value you freedom, you must acknowledge that it is wrong to force others to pay for your vision via taxation. Just as it was immoral for Obama to force Americans to buy health insurance, it is immoral to force Americans to pay for this border wall. Both actions were taken with the apparent mission to fix a problem (solve the healthcare crisis, solve the border crisis); however, they lose their meaning when implemented using force and theft via taxation.
Quite simply, this project is being funded with stolen money from the American taxpayer. If you want a border wall then organize and crowdfund to build a wall on your property. Do not force others to pay for your barrier through taxation. Finally, when Trump’s team spoke of the wall they mentioned creating new detention centers up and down the wall. I can see it now: a heavily militarized border with checkpoints and detention centers under the control of the federal government. This is exactly the type of tyranny that lovers of liberty and freedom have been fighting for generations. What happened to those who value freedom and oppose authoritarianism? Did you abandon reason and philosophy for brute force and fear?
The battle is not lost, but if you are not willing to call out the mistakes and crimes of Trump you are failing yourself. We must fight to keep all people in positions of power accountable to the people. Whether their names are Bush, Obama, Clinton, or Trump, they should always fear the awakened, organized, and empowered hearts and minds of the world. We must continue to stand together to oppose tyranny and theft. To avoid paying the State learn about counter-economics and start building freedom cells. It’s time to for our communities to organize and create the next stage of a free humanity.
Derrick Broze is an investigative journalist and liberty activist. He is the Lead Investigative Reporter for ActivistPost.com and the founder of the TheConsciousResistance.com. Follow him on Twitter. Derrick is the author of three books: The Conscious Resistance: Reflections on Anarchy and Spirituality and Finding Freedom in an Age of Confusion, Vol. 1 and Finding Freedom in an Age of Confusion, Vol. 2
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So, you’re saying that making Mexico reimburse us for the wall is not the same as Mexico paying for the wall? Yeah, I’m going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. He is using appropriated funds (ie. not new taxes) to get construction started sooner than later.
I’ll bet you a 6 pack of Sweetwater 420 that more money will come rolling in from what Mexico would otherwise be collecting than US tax payers are giving up within a year of the start of construction.
Exactly.
I agree. We may pay up front but Mexico will reimburse through remittances or an outright transaction tax. That’s just a misleading headline…
They will just use a digital currency beyond the control of any state.
That makes zero sense. Appropriated funds is tax dollars so yes hes using our tax money to pay for it. And hes not even saying they will pay us back just that there will be some kind of reimbursement not monetary and certainly not in full. Its all very much wishful thinking. Just another example of the government wasting our money, driving up debt and intervening into the markets. Same result as the last four years just a different flavor
Actually, it doesn’t make zero sense, because that money is appropriated for border control already.
Don’t be such a doubting Thomas. The new boss is not remotely the same as the old boss.
The new boss honestly wants to save America. The last boss fervently wanted to destroy it.
Yep!
I wonder how many people who voted for Trump really believed he would build a wall. Surprise!
Of COURSE we believed he would build the wall! He’s not a lying politician!
No, he’s not. He’s more like an egomaniacal dictator, and he’s just getting cranked up.
Yes. This. Its disturbing.
He said Mexico would pay for it not tax payers. You voted for Trump and now your taxes are going up..sucker!
I’m sure most would rather pay for a wall than Obamacare
Right! Who wouldn’t choose a wall over health insurance.
I don’t care HOW it’s built – I WANT it BUILT! I’m positive there are millions of people who would pay for it. Just put our names on a dedication plaque and I’m GOOD. Have a nice day!
Elsewhere he said that tariffs on Mexican goods would more than pay for it. I think he will still stick Mexico for the bill.
Wonder if they questioned why a wall would be the FIRST step rather than moving to enforce laws already on the books, an approach that would have stopped most illegal immigration in its tracks long ago. The enforcement of these same laws being the bipartisan *promise* of the massive Reagan amnesty….a classic bait and switch.
$25 billion is chump change for the Global Bankster Kabal. Seems more like the Border Wall is intended to restrict free travel, an icon for a prison planet, while adding fuel to the Kabuki Strategy of RINO-DINO Tension. Meanwhile, the Trump admin is pushing E-Verify, the gateway meme to a biometric national ID tracking system.
The wall is a law on the books; otherwise he couldn’t do this by Executive Order! The authorization and appropriation was already made by Congress. He’s just doing what Obama wouldn’t.
Thanks, I get your point and am no fan of the open borders agenda. Though I meant enforcement of long standing immigration and employment eligibility laws. The wall (not saying I know it is or isn’t) has the potential to be a Hegelian “synthesis” appeasing conservatives on the surface while the wall is used as a quid pro quo excuse to finally push though the next big amnesty (Trump said he won’t revoke Obama’s EO amnesty for young illegals) and in the process the main issue of the stealth creep of North American Union regional government won’t get exposed to the American citizenry. Check out Parag Khanna on the MSM spouting his support for Trump’s infrastructure project. On Khanna’s website is the new refined map for the NAU. Remember, Trump’s new Energy Secretary former TX gov Rick Perry has been a major proponent of the NAU, the trans-TX-corridor hwy, and said the US and Mexico should merge their Social Security systems. ….Keeping a wary eye on the usual suspects wiggling their way via incrementalism. Just a heads up. Cheers, Blue
You have no idea a) what you’re talking about, and b) what an executive order is. Try educating yourself, Google is your friend Einstein.
I agree. Walls are archetypal symbols that work to “keep out” as well as “keep in”, to divide and isolate. The wall was the capstone to Trump’s platform and a Hegelian move in all regards. We will be seeing a lot more of this dynamic play out.
An interesting Kabuki is playing out in Montana this week. Our rebel state government has been fighting with the feds for years, refusing to issue Real IDs to Montana residents. We had been granted numerous extensions but they finally ran out and now we’re required to show passports where any identification is required, including cashing a check, flying within the U.S., etc.
As the noose tightens, Trump lays down his wild cards, and the raven flies.
And what would stop hundreds of illegals from screaming across the border every day while whoever is “enforcing laws already on the books”? I GUARANTEE you they will come faster than any bureaucratic procedure can get them out.
Yep and TPTB have no intention of removing or stemming the flow of their “fifth columns”, Europe too. There are neighborhoods in France where women aren’t allowed in Arab owned cafes.
The US spends far more than $25 Billion/year transporting, housing, feeding, clothing, buying electronic gadgets for, educating, providing free medical and dental services, and the like for the hundreds of thousands of migrants/illegals. E-verify has never been enforced in the past 8 years. Enforcement by E-verify will do much to make jobs open for Americans. California just stated it would not enforce laws concerning false identity papers or E-verify. E-Verify ensures that new hires are Americans, and has been a law for 20+ years. It was extremely effective at preventing illegals from getting American jobs.
Yes, I agree See Janus the amount spent on illegal aliens and generations of anchor babies is staggering. The more intangible long term effects on culture, crime, and the open border agenda are even more devastating, and, of course, I say that as problem, reaction, solution, not a reflection of my view of a nationality trying to paint them all with the same broad brush. I don’t concur about the ultimate agenda (behind the curtain) of E-Verify which is something I am well familiar with having started out actively engaged in the infowar 14 years ago in the immigration reform sphere…an outgrowth of my interest in public health policy wondering how it was the open border situation was allowed to continue when hospitals were going bankrupt and the social safety net was being shredded (among other critical issues). I know for a fact employers around the nation were routinely being sent letters from the feds stating social security numbers supplied by illegal aliens were fraudulent and simultaneously these employers were overtly given a wink and nod to continue the practice. This was also around the time the Bush administration was seeking to shove through another big amnesty and prosecuted two Border Patrol agents for doing their job as other agents confided to immigration reform groups they too were being held back and threatened. That’s when Bush and the immigration reform gatekeepers began pushing E-Verify as the “solution”. BTW, here in CO, when this was all taking place, the RINO governor instructed state prosecutors to plea bargain felony crimes committed by illegal aliens to lesser charges to avoid automatic deportation, a whistle blower gave the example of car thefts being charged as “agricultural trespass”. I would ‘bet the farm’ a biometric national ID system is the ultimate goal of E-Verify and I’m referring to the agenda of the pyramid cap, not well meaning but unwitting advocates in various state administrative positions. What a mess, my friend, by design.
That’s just what we don’t need. A stinkin’ REAL ID.
Remember Eisenhower’s “Operation Wetback” that ran from 1954 to 1962? In the first year authorities deported over one million illegal immigrants and virtually stopped the flow across the southern border. No doubt when Johnson took office word was sent to end enforcement.
Surprise! He IS building a wall and Mexico is paying for it – count on it…
There’s medications for those delusional as you are.
Are you still maintaining Hillary will win the election?
well she did win ppl vote. only reason Trump won is because of the broken system called electoral vote. either way both would be a bad choice for President
“Broken” in what way? It didn’t produce what you people were so sure it would?
It worked precisely how the authors of the Constitution designed it to work. It’s fine as long as your warmongering candidate wins. It’s only “broken” when your candidate loses.
How could they?
LOL, then what? Mexico’s revenge would be to just open up its borders to illegal immigration from Central America, stop any intelligence or security cooperation with the U.S. and boom! a barrage of illegal immigrants and drug cartels bringing in more corruption, crime and eventually, terrorism into U.S. soil.
I really doubted he would – just because it’s so dumb and expensive.
Dumb for sure, but nothing is too expensive for a billionaire spending someone else’s money.
I’m not much of a Trump fan, but I will give him a little credit: I think he can do some good things, unlike his recent predecessors. For instance, nixing the TPP. I suspect we’ll see him roughly alternate between awful and good. He seems to be his own man – King Trump – with too much ego to ever be someone’s puppet (as Obomba and Bush were). That will, I predict, have both negative and positive consequences. Perhaps I’m being naive, but I’m hoping it will be somewhat positive in sum.
There is virtually no end to dirt cheap prison labor. They will volunteer just to get outdoors and blow off steam in hard work.
I promise you, none of them will try and escape into Mexico. This ain’t “Hey Joe”.
Give me a site where I can donate MY own money to construct a couple feet of it! Give everyone a wall plaque for the area they build. I’m IN! I just want it BUILT!
Give me a site where I can donate my own money to construct rehabilitation drug centers all across USA for millions of (not general) hungry american drug addicts, that made more than 100,000 deaths and more than 200,000 orphans all across Mexico.
President 2 Mouths, Says 1 thing Does the Opposite.
Please do elaborate. Don’t be afraid to be specific. No generalities.
The man’s a car crash
Trump has always said this is the way it would be done. Millions of Mexicans who entered illegally and legally work here and then send the money back home called remittances and is one of the largest financial inflows to Mexico, it was 25 billion in 2015. The threat to stop these transfers would be withdrawn if Mexico made “a one-time payment of $5-10 billion” to pay for the border wall. “It’s an easy decision for Mexico,” After the wall was funded, transfer payments could continue “to flow into their country year after year, if the Mexican government will contribute $_ billion to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.”Trump said. 51 million in aid along with tax incentives would be cut or stopped. The cost of healthcare for illegals, almost 1 billion a year that we pay for Mexico’ citizens would be curtailed to a large degree transferring the cost back to Mexico. The cost to give free education to Mexican citizens would also be curtailed. Raising visa fees and increased trade tariffs would also help pay for it. The unfair trade deals that suck money into Mexico would be stopped. Yes one way or another Mexico will pay for that wall.
Azwhole. We may fund it upfront but Mexico will pay.
it will pay for itself in law enforcement and welfare bloodSucking savings alone. Notice we don’t have this “element” coming in through Canada…. nor the sea, for that matter. Why is Mexico such a farm for swill? Someone please explain this to me.
The next few months will be very interesting – our ‘leader’ ‘s astrological chart shows a split personality (Gemini), a ‘look at me Leo’ with a badly aspected Uranus – the frequency responsible for violent, volcanic upheavals on every level.
We already pay in so many ways, will be cheaper to have a wall.
Sure, welfare, anchor babies, crime, medical care, food stamps, schools. Open borders create balkanization, same with the refugees moving into Europe.
LMFBO this is what passes for investigative journalism?
no. op-ed pieces.
Nothing about it claims to be “investigative journalism”. Do you even know what it means?
He touts himself an “Investigative Journalist” 5 minutes of investing and he shoulda realized his article was just plain dumb.
$60 billion trade deficit and probably $50 billion annually in remittances. We hold all the cards. Mexico will pay for whatever Trump wants them too.
Nope. If the U.S. couldn’t prevent illegal immigrants to enter American soil in the first place, do you really think the government will be able to take that money from them?
It’s not difficult to tax wire transfers going south.
Sure thing. Then remittance money will be sent through other means (i.e. buying stuff in the U.S., then shipping it to Mexico for bartering or reselling). At the end, the wall will not prevent illegal immigration nor drug smuggling, and will end up alienating Mexico, for which like it or not, is the closest neighbor to the United States.
Our Great Wall of China (built to keep out barbarians) may become our Berlin Wall (built to keep citizens from leaving.)
Well said, Bonnielou.
Yes. The wall definitely falls under the rubric, “Be careful what you wish for.”
Because so many Americans, having had enough, are fleeing into Mexico.
There is no other place the wall will keep us out of. ONLY MEXICO.
This issue of “open borders” is where libertarians lose so much public support. It’s an on-going problem since the early 70s. Selling the “non-interventionist” foreign policy of Switzerland is hard enough, (which is solely to act as a national a fortress of sorts), but then conflate it with borders that are only a pen mark on a map? Rational men roll their eyes in ridicule. If a nation is going to have unsecured borders and open immigration, it becomes a pathetic joke to even consider having a military. Shall we attempt to make the case for that now????? Derrick: build a few anarchoVol towns. Let’s see how they work before we accept your national prescriptions.
yea, and pray tell HOW will you MAKE another SOVEREIGN nation pay for YOUR wall…
Bribery?
Threats?
One tyrant moved out of the White House and another tyrant moved in…
Business as usual in Washington…
It is really a shame that “journalists” didn’t get any lessons on economics!! And to all the ignorant commenters who don’t understand and are complaining that Trump lied. You will see. So get a headache kids, cuz your the ONLY one who will have it!!!!
If you give me 2 choices, 1:we try to force Mexico to pay for a wall, they say no, our border remains unsecured and all the dregs from south of the border come pouring through, or 2: we taxpayers pay for it, the border is secured, and no more scum bags come through…give me #2, thank you very much.
How much does paying for EBT cards, medical care, jail housing, transportation and deportation, and the resulting criminal and victimization cost us? Chances are the wall is cheaper. Even if its more expensive, its safer. Either build the wall or let the citizens hunt the illegals with immunity from prosecution.
Why isn’t the headline: “U.S. taxpayers will pay for the wall initially and later be reimbursed by a payment from the Mexican government”? Is it just me, or does an article like this smack of fake news? Clickbait, for sure. Activist Post editors asleep at the wheel?
I guess that’s what Trump considers to be “rebuilding our infrastructure.” ;/
Surprise! Clickbait. Is this what passes for “investigative journalism”–simply rehashing and editorializing on information that’s freely and widely available on the MSM? Activist Post and Mr Broze, you’re fired!
Welcome to journalism.
This is goons America having the temerity to ask another country Mexico for money for the wall which America wants to build ! What an arrogant pig that country is.
You pay for wall if you want the wall.
Second before you make wall please return to Mexico the stolen land of Texas and California
After that make wall to keep unwanted Americans in.
If the Mexicans want the land in California and Texas, they can fight for it. No free lunches. Got it!
How long will it take to build this wall? I take it that thousands are crossing the border every day.
So depending on the time it takes the illegals will still be crossing as usual or they have security installed to prevent this. If so why build the wall as they will more than likely just dig tunnels under the wall unless they have security. Sounds like a catch 22?
I don’t do predictions, but Trump will build some sort of wall. He said he would, he will. I did not vote for Trump (actually I did, on my way to the dump, rhymed with Trump, why not? True story…) I voted against a bloodsucking vampire (no one who’s done due diligence research on the Clintons could come away unscalded).
Trump will attempt to do many of the things he said he would do in his campaign because he is an egomaniac.
I don’t think he’s a psychopath. His final opponent after the primaries…who can be sure. I think she’s a psycho.
The two-party “system” is a con since inception. For many, who’ve switched parties several times (especially in states where you have to declare to vote in the primaries), you end up having to vote “against” the OTHER candidate to retain self respect?
What sort of system is that? Where you have to vote for Bozo-the-Clown over the Wicked-Witch-of-the-East?
Just take it from the F-35 program.
The biggest con man and BS artist in America.
..The only illegals in America are English colonials . You’re living on Stolen land (Rednecks )
In the year 1821 the gringos English colonials stole the Florida months before the independence of the great Mexican empire the gringos knowing that Mexico was about to become independent invaded and robbed Florida so that it did not belong to Mexico.Majority of the Mexican population is of Indigenous decent.Half of the United States was part of Mexico and” stolen by English settlers”.
The president of Mexico has to call the Russian president PUTIN and the Chinese prime minister and put a Russian military base and a Chinese military base in the Mexican territory on the border and then demand the United States to return the land they stole from Mexico during war of Colonial days.
No English colonial man or black man will work more than 14 hours a day 7 days a week collecting fruits and vegetables in the hot heat of the desert For 1.50 per hour, not even for the minimum wage.,,,,http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ct56cf650b.jpg