Veteran’s Children Taken & Held Hostage by Govt Agents for Legally Treating his PTSD with Cannabis

State-Agents-Have-Kidnapped-Veterans-Kids-for-Legally-Treating-his-PTSD-with-CannabisBy William N. Grigg

Disabled Navy veteran Raymond Schwab moved to Colorado last year to free himself from addictions that grew out of the pharmaceuticals prescribed by the VA to treat his service-related physical and psychological injuries.

As Veterans for Medical Cannabis Access points out, medical cannabis is an effective treatment for veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), where other drugs fail. Veterans are successfully treating themselves despite the federal government’s prohibition.

Because Schwab is legally using medicinal cannabis in Colorado, officials in prohibitionist Kansas have abducted five of his children, ranging from 5 to 16 years of age.

The ransom demanded by the Kansas “child protection” bureaucracy is a promise that Schwab will refrain from using cannabis, and four months of “clean” urinalysis test results.

“They’re basically using my kids as a pawn to take away freedoms I fought for,” Schwab explained to the Denver Post. “It’s a horrible position to put me in.”

The family’s trauma originated in what could be called a “Pavlik Morozov-in-reverse” scenario. Morozov, a school-age youth living in Ukraine during the 1930s, was a member of the Soviet Young Pioneers who informed on his father to the secret police. Morozov’ father was arrested and murdered by the NKVD, and the youngster was honored by the Soviet regime as a “patriotic” exemplar whose loyalty to the state transcended filial piety. DARE programs notoriously promote a similar mentality within American schoolchildren, encouraging them to snoop through medicine cabinets in search of forbidden substances and call the police in the event any are found.

In the case of the Schwab family, the generational relationship was inverted. The Post relates that during a visit to Kansas the children’s material grandmother “took the kids to a police station in another county and reported them abandoned,” something she reportedly has come to regret.

Last April, a child abuse investigation cleared Schwab of harming his children in any way. Yet a judge has ruled that the children will remain in state control until Schwab and his wife foreswear any further legal use of cannabis.

Schwab’s case is somewhat similar to that of medical liberty activist Shona Banda, a resident of Garden City, Kansas whose 11-year-old son was also abducted by government officials after the youngster spoke out in school about the benefits his mother had experienced using cannabis oil to treat her otherwise intractable Crohn’s disease. The well-informed young man, displaying greater passion than discretion, shared his mother’s experience during a DARE presentation intended to indoctrinate him and his classmates to be informants in the service of drug war dead-enders.

Unfortunately, his mother hadn’t inoculated her son against trusting government officials who can exploit nearly any disclosure as a pretext for ruining the lives of people who have done no harm to others.

Displaying the punitive efficiency for which police states are notorious, “School officials contacted police, who searched [Banda’s] house and found marijuana and cannabis oil,” recounts the Kansas City Star. For using a beneficial substance that relieves the symptoms of her painful, inflammatory auto-immune disease, Banda has been charged with three felonies and two misdemeanors that could be used to steal up to thirty years of her life.

One alarming aspect of Schwab’s case that differs from Banda’s predicament is the fact that his marijuana use is entirely legal within the state in which he resides – yet officials in Kansas are using that benign conduct to justify seizing and detaining his children as hostages to use against him. Inventive cruelty of this kind can be expected from the kind of people who would cage others for making medicinal use of a plant.

William N. Grigg writes for

  • It’s terrifying to watch government destroy our once great nation.

    • American Patriot

      Government MUST DIE!

  • legal eagle

    Baby killers with drones; child abductors for thwarting the profits of Big Pharma. What a truly moral and brave bunch.

  • gozounlimited

    The issue is not cannabis, Schwab’s children were reported abandoned in Kansas while mom and dad went to Colorado to pursue treatment. Apparently grandma didn’t want the kids, so dad needs to return to his children currently in state custody in Kansas, or move them to Colorado with him. Kansas CPS has no jurisdiction in Colorado and cannot compel Mr. Schwab to do anything while there.

    Kansans should lobby for legal use of medical cannabis since use of restricted substances will get the attention of authorities….. especially when children are involved. Like it or not, possession of any amount of marijuana — even a single gram — can land Kansans in jail for up to a year, as well as a $1,000 fine. If they’re caught with marijuana again, they could be convicted of a felony and face up to three and a half years in prison and a $100,000 fine.

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  • Zaphod Braden

    Then take OBAMA;s children ……….
    Obama wrote books in which he confessed to SELF MEDICATING his UNRESOLVED MENTAL ISSUES with illegal and unsupervised marijuana and cocaine.
    So Obama says the “Mentally Ill” should be banned from owning firearms, and I agree —
    START by removing the SELF-CONFESSED MENTALLY ILL Obama and get HIS finger off that NUCLEAR trigger.

  • Chris

    Just say no to Corporations acting under the color of authority.. and mean it. It’s amazing what some people will do to collect a paycheck. These jobs were created so the least capable in society could still contribute and be somewhat productive, as a form of welfare. Are we supposed to let the least capable make decisions for the most capable? The sheer ignorance of a welfare collecting policy enforcing kidnapper does not give them authority to take anything from anybody. Much less your kids. This is why we have the right to not only own arms, but bear them as well.

  • Carol Hardy

    As a daughter of an original Army Ranger, the ex wife of two VietNam Veterans, mother of a combat Marine veteran, grandmother of an active Airman, I am appalled by this self righteous grandmother taking the children to a neighboring county to prove her righteousness at the sacrifice of children. You can’t get medical marijuana without a prescription so who was SHE to second guess her son in law’s
    doctor, the State of Colorado, the parenting skills of her own daughter. SHAME.

    • BanishedJester

      The lady probably hasn’t read and inch of literature available on the subject of cannabis, the miracle medicine. She was raised with prohibition, indoctrinated by the state, and is blind to reason, evidence or logic. This is what our masters have produced and they are proud of it.

  • gweneth

    hang yer head Kansas and gramma.

  • BanishedJester

    All parents take note: Your failure to participate in politics ensures that you will be ruled by your inferiors. This is what your children are to the state…state property.

    • Brett

      Very true my friend. We are many they are few and they are scared shitless of us.

  • somitcw

    No government has the authority to block people from using any medicine that the person wishes to use.
    No government has the authority to force any medicine on anyone.
    The U.S Declaration of Independence makes it clear the Creator given individual rights overrule government force.

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    At some point very soon a true parent–one that loves their children more than they fear the state, is just going to go in with a group of armed friends and relatives and take back their kidnapped children.

    • Brett

      I like the sound of that. But, of course, the media will report those loving parents as ‘TERRORISTS’!

  • American Patriot

    Try taking my kids frm me, they would be facing a firing squad!
    Kidnapping is nothing short of terrorism, and without DUE PROCESS, the criminals MUST BE SHOT!

  • Brett

    Our Governments are criminals, simple as that. And we pay them!

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