Sunday, February 10, 2013

News Services Fake Dorner Manifesto, Quick-Shooting Police Mistake Little Women for a Big Man

Chris Dorner
Ruth Hull
Activist Post

Warning to all women. If you are young or old, and especially if you are unarmed, watch out for the police as they may mistake you for a fully armed big muscular male former police officer and shoot you.

Ask Maggie Carranza and Emma Hernandez, both of whom were mistaken for Chris Dorner and shot by the police. Neither were armed. It didn't matter than Emma was 71 and a much smaller build than a big muscular guy. The police have made it clear that it is shoot to kill and shooting the wrong people is preferable to shooting nobody at all.

What odds do you think the real Chris Dornan has of being brought in alive? In your own self-defense, you might want to call LAPD media relations at 213 486 5900 and ask that they bring Dorner in alive and STOP SHOOTING PEOPLE before you wind up their net accidental target.

Police corruption is a real problem in the Southland and this real problem is brought out in Chris Dorner's manifesto. I'm talking about the real manifesto and not the fake one you saw on Drudge, CNN, CounterPunch or a number of other sites that put ratings above truth and human life. For the real version, check out the articles at OEN and Facebook by former six term Congresswoman and American hero Cynthia McKinney who was alerted to the plight of Chris Dorner by Michael Rupperrt a former LAPD officer who is an expert on corruption within that department.

The fake additions/changes to the manifesto presented by the mainstream media to garner higher ratings don't even match the writing style or educational level of the rest of the manifesto and are clearly fake additions/chances. They are clearly put in there by someone with a political agenda, who is using an unfortunate situation to push for legislation. Former LAPD Officer Dorner was concerned about corruption, not politics. He was writing about his personal observations, experiences and anger at the local authorities. The fake changes/additions are clearly not written by Dorner.


If you want juicy passages on Obama and his misses, you will probably be disappointed with the real manifesto. It doesn't even mention the Obamas or the Bushes and it definitely doesn't disparage Michelle in any way. It's not going to sell news stories. No wonder CNN, Drudge and CounterPunch don't like the real one. But the fake version riles people up against someone who never said those things and makes it more acceptable to kill a potentially innocent man. What should be done about media outlets that put false words into the mouth of someone in danger of being killed over those words?

While the real manifesto names some potentially corrupt officers and chiefs, politicians are left out of the mix and so are their wives. Chris Dorner was too busy writing about police corruption to discuss Washington politicos and legislation. After you ask the LAPD to stop shooting people, I suggest you notify any media outlets distributing the false manifesto that you are cancelling your subscriptions to them and placing them in the "yellow journalism" round file.

We do not know if Dorner is still alive or will live long enough to tell his story. If the police keep shooting people, there is a good chance he and others will not be able to say anything. In the Dorner case, it is interesting that those who most need to speak are dead or likely to die. With Dorner, the truth dies too.

I present here the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Due process of law does not translate into getting splattered with bullets fired by cops shooting everyone who looks like a man or a woman. There is also a corresponding Due Process Clause in the 14th Amendment, through which most parts of the Bill of Rights (including the 5th and 6th Amendments) are applied to the state and local governments.

The Sixth Amendment is also important:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Is banning the press helicopters and simply shooting a man in the woods, law enforcement's idea of a public and speedy trial by a jury of the man's peers? If you think the framers had something else in mind, the LAPD phone number is up above.

Someone went to a lot of trouble to fake a manifesto. This leads to the question, "What else did they fake?" Did this man do anything other than blow the whistle on corrupt police practices? Once lies start, where do they end? If they start with a fake manifesto, do they go on to include falsely attributed killings? By releasing a fake version of the manifesto, the authorities and press have opened the door to wide speculation that this man may have been framed in every other way.

Dorner may be as bad as they claim, but those who presented the fake manifesto have lost their credibility with respect to this particular suspect and maybe other suspects as well. In releasing the fake manifesto, somebody or somebodies are making a strong effort to turn public opinion against Dorner. Why such a strong effort? What is the real threat this man poses? Could this be just a man who came across some dangerous information?

Let's look at the more authentic version of the manifesto to find out what is taking place on the LAPD and what they may want to hide.
"In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. XXXX/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD's Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (XXXXX), XXXX kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye."
Wait a minute. So Dorner doesn't like violence against a potentially innocent suspect. It would be nice if more officers opposed police violence.

"While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard XXXX refer to another individual as a n-word. I wasn't sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer XXXX call an indivdual a n-word again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told XXXX not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well-known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, "I'll say it when I want". Officer XXXX, a friend of his, also stated that he would say n-word when he wanted."
Is he saying officers on the LAPD are racist? So Mark Fuhrman wasn't a fantasy conjured up by OJ? And are these same racist officers now planning to kill Dorner, a Black man? There couldn't be racism involved in this armed lynching of a Black man, could there?
"She (Sgt. XXXX) found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed an Indian burn to the woman's arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70's, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time."
More witnessed misconduct. I wonder if the 70-something woman has filed suit against the LAPD.

"or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death..."

Couldn't those officers get the death penalty if Dorner testifies? Does that make it self-defense to kill Dorner, the witness?

"I've heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV's, Waverunners, RV's and new clothes for their kids."

Nice guys.

The last part of the manifesto makes it clear that he respects the U.S. Government. Much of the "attack" rhetoric towards the end with respect to corrupt cops could be interpreted in different ways, such a plan for cyber attacks, discouraging anyone from helping save the lives of rogue officers when they get into trouble, fighting those who are attacking innocent suspects, starting a revolt against the police or just plain fierce rhetoric to discourage the police from coming after him. 

Of course, after seeing the trouble someone went to push the obviously false version, you never know if some of these other passages were faked by someone more professional. In fact, Dorner might not have written anything. In 1984, Goldstein didn't write his book. O'Brien was the primary author.

We also cannot be certain that Dorner killed anyone. If the police could mistake a 71-year-old woman for Dorner, maybe it was a 71-year-old woman who committed the murders with which they are crediting him, or maybe those who were killed were blowing the whistle like Dorner...

If the LAPD doesn't know the difference between a man and a woman, who else might they mistake for Dorner? What if Dorner showed up on the scene of the other killings to try to save the decedents but was too late? Maybe they want to kill Dorner so he won't tell what really happened to those people. These are questions for a jury, that thing mentioned in the Sixth Amendment.

We do not know if Chris Dorner is crazy, a really bad guy, or as some have claimed, "a hero." What we do know is that if we believe in America, then it is up to us to make sure that this man has his day in court. I'm an American. Are you? Maybe it's time we showed the world what it means to be an American.

So join your fellow Americans in calling the LAPD and demanding they bring Dorner in alive and STOP SHOOTING WOMEN and everyone else for that matter.

In closing, I refer everyone to the Samuel L Jackson, Kevin Spacey movie The Negotiator, wherein an honest police officer went rogue to prove his innocence after he had uncovered corruption and been framed. In his manifesto, Chris Dorner makes it clear he also wants to prove his innocence.



Ruth Hull is an activist and writer whose career has included work as a criminal defense attorney, a licensed private investigator, and an educator.



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19 comments:

Seen said...

Hello Ruth Hull,

"KTLA chose to censor the names of those accused by Dorner; you can find the uncensored version of Dorner's Manifesto here: http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/

Censored version of Dorner's Manifesto:"
https://www.facebook.com/notes/cynthia-mckinney/chris-dorner-the-enemy-combatants-in-la-are-not-the-citizens-and-suspects-its-th/10151281271306139

Cythia says that the uncensored is here http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/ but didn't see it referenced at OpEdNews link.

Still the LAPD shouldn't act like it's a military outfit in a war-zone

Anonymous said...

"What odds do you think the real Chris Dornan has of being brought in alive?"


Zero. And that means that I would think there is a real possibility that this is a set up as claimed.


Paul Panza said...

An example of legal gun users exercising their rights, what are the odds that a civilian will take down the fugitive? Poster children for the NRA will use this for defending the 2nd amendment which was written in the day of flintlocks not powerful laser sited auto-fire.

Lisa Simeone said...

Would like to point out that Dorner does indeed mention the Obamas, both of them, in his manifesto. I read the whole 11,000-word manifesto. There's tons of juicy (and deranged) stuff in there; the media doesn't have to make anything up.

Look, I think the mainstream media is often full of shit, too. But don't weaken your argument with bogus claims. The media hasn't been adding fake stuff to Dorner's manifesto. You can go read it yourself.

Hide Behind said...

The point that Ms. Hull is trying to get across is that THe Truth of Mr. Dorner cannot ever be found as the systems in place are set there by those who control the perceptions of TRuth and diseminate it for me and you to try and sort out what are lies part lies or is it alla damned lie to protect. Those who spin perceptions and deceptions after theor first manipulations.
Trial by media works well to protect not the public but how justice is perverted in the legal sustem.
In the courts procedures a chess game is in progress, evidence of truth can be ruled inadmissible or not relavent to the charge at hand and testimony of a witness not an expert vounts lrss than that of the paid for by the courts professionals.
Where trith of a witness testimony can be 99% presnt an opposing lawyrt will make it all irelevsnt be the doubt upon the U2% which may of been just an argument oflegal semantics.
Are there spins upon what Dorner says, yes thete are and there are those do ready to defend what mentionof their chosrn Iffols the Obamas that Dorner must be guilty of the original charge of gunning down two peoople
What LAPD cares about is not just aprehenfing a memace to society but to shut tje mouth of one who threatens them by exposing LAPD's improprietys and illegal actions that destroy civil libertys.
That Dorner if caught foes not mean even a fair trial for him will be done
And sure as jell you know that at the base of this UThe legality of LAPD will not even be debated.
Who or what institutipns can an american vitizoen expect to hear truth from¿
When you got Obamatrons yelling fowl because they cannot face the truththeir odols legs and feet are no more that BS held together by their worpship.
TO protect something so far from case at hand they are willing to let othets throw out Lady Justice with the water.
That said we do not appreciate spin by anyone because thrre are enough truths out there to prove ones opinions. Just bring em forth because there are Obamatrons and millions of other trons trolls and ignorant who will destroy the message and the messenger by the 1% and then gloat about it.

Janet Phelan said...

Note to Lisa Simeone--The point that Ruth Hull is making is that a fake manifesto was released. Hull provides the links to the bonafide manifesto. Fake stuff was indeed added to the original manifesto. Hull makes compelling and important points in her article. Please re read it. You apparently didn't get it the first go around.

Anonymous said...

There does seem to be multiple versions of the manifesto. 22 pages, 20 pages, 11 pages, depending on who you go to for information.

Anonymous said...

This man, Dorner, may be the ultimate avenger. He apparently has decided that his life no longer has value due to the actions of some of the members of the LAPD and his lawyer, and he seeks justice for a perceived wrong.

The economics of revenge is usually tainted with social conditioning. The whole point of revenge is to make the target as unhappy as possible. Death of the offender is usually the action, but death simply releases the offender of all earthly burdens. The lifetime punishment is transferred to the immediate family! The point is to make the offender suffer a lifetime of misery and regret.

The lawyer will associate the death of a spawn with his work for the rest of his life. While Dorner is loose every member of the LAPD is fair game simply by being a member of the force and will worry that they or a member of their family may be next. Even now, their imagination causes them to strike indiscriminately at innocents!

When the time comes, Dorner will die one way or another, and all of the LAPD will be frustrated by having no target from which to extract revenge!

He may be insane, but he does have a rational plan!

Have a swell day. Smell the sweet air; bask in the sunshine!

Unknown said...

It's time for you to accept the reality that the original IS 22 pages long and the first release was a truncated 11 page version. Now NBC has finally posted all 22 pages. You're just flat wrong. http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news­/local/Cop-Revenge-Shooter-Nam­ed-Names-in-Manifesto-blamed-A­sians-Hispanics-and-Lesbians-1­90218051.html

Anonymous said...

Remember what happened to Serpico!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Don't worry because all these people in power who hide in the shadows and think they're so rich and powerful, are being watched by God. Nothing is hidden from God. So for all those people who have been compromised and otherwise demonized, everything evil you've done here will end and begin for you in hell. And for those in this world who have power and fame and think they're above it all, remember this isn't it. YOu've been lied to about your success here on earth. Remember there is no TMZ or ACLU in HELL. It's appointed to man or woman once to die and then the judgement.

Anonymous said...

I have to question the 22 page manifesto going around, I believe a lot of that was added on as you read it he completely changes his opinion going from having a very strict ethics code that he put in front of himself to saying it shouldn't be possible to buy guns and doing what he himself has done. I could be wrong but from what I've read he purchased those guns before he was pushed over the edge and if he didn't believe citizens should have them or that there was no reason to have them, then why would he himself? His biggest complaint is about them hiding the truth and keeping their mouths shut about the many problems inside the LAPD but then turns around saying he supports DDX (which I find odd he didn't use a name) for saying he should have kept his mouth shut and hoping they're happy... Why would he go out killing people for this Saying the only way he'll stop if if the truth comes out and then turn around in the same letter saying it's ok that DDX is doing the same thing and telling other officers to keep their mouth shut but he wishing DDX the best for the same thing? Lastly the depression, who with half a brain would take such a stance and go through so much trouble and then turn around and blame depression for their actions making their entire stance weaker.
I believe http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/616/02/616_1360213161.pdf is the manifesto we should be reading...

kim cassidy said...

There is no doubt in my mind that Dorner did not kill anyone, and that SOME powerful members of the LAPD are desperately trying to keep from being exposed as the corrupt and violent group they are. If you believe the media lies and the police lies you are a fool. Maybe you are a coward, too, and are so afraid these corrupt cops will silence YOU that you are willing to watch Dorner go down in flames, regardless of his years of integrity and honest service, to YOU. After all, by bringing out the corruption, he was protecting YOU. He was educating YOU. If you are so thankless as to step aside in order to allow his enemies to slaughter him, you are setting yourself up, too. Those who benefit by you stepping aside will see exactly who YOU are, and will come after you next--you've already shown them your weakness and willingness to dive to the floor and s*ck their d*cks on command. I wouldn't want the likes of you, or anyone like YOU, on my side. Fair weather friends are no friends at all, and will get you killed while they cower in the shadows.

kim cassidy said...

I am brand new subscriber to this newsletter, and am surprised at how many commenters are commenting anonymously. Even here you are frightened?

Anonymous said...

Nope, simply don't have any of the comment accounts and as I'm disconnecting my internet, i am to lazy to register. Besides putting comments Anonymously really doesn't help one hide from the government as our IP address can be found for every comment and tracked right back to our house.... That being said from what I have read about Dorner if he came to my home and needed to hide, I would welcome him and shake his hand (assuming he really didn't put the gun ban comment as I believe). I wasn't stating that he had written a manifesto but that if he did I do not believe it to have been what was posted here but rather the shorter one that makes more sense.....

Anonymous said...

I'm amazed at the stupidity of some of the people here. They claim that this article that claims there is a hoax version of the manifesto going around where Dormer criticizes politicians and gays isn't fake because they read it. And some of them even link to it. (although it is surprising that that NBC link is now dead. I['m guessing that these lying media sites are trying to cover up their lies).
I too read the doctored manifesto and only now do I realize that it was doctored since I have now read the actual original. One thing I did NOT do was call the authors of this article liars. I looked for myself to see that they were telling the truth. Simply because I read the fake one first does not mean that I then will automatically defend that one as being real. Others here apparently aren't capable of realizing that they've been duped.
Also the reason why so many of us post "anonymously" is because the only other option we have is signing up with some account with some organization. No thank you.

Anonymous said...

The comment in the final manifesto

“Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of sh*t. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media.”

is seen by most of my friends as being a very true analysis of the NRA.

Anonymous said...

There are two different writing styles in the manifestos. Holy cow, this is unreal. I'm in NYC and haven't been following this story except the sound-bittles they put on the news (between what kind of toilet paper Chris Brown uses and the latest on whether or not Lindsay Lohan's tummy ache was caused by too much candy and if so...what kind?
You know...the important stuff).
My husband said after they shot those women that he would not be taken alive. I'm sad that this is the state of America.

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