Saturday, January 5, 2013

Morality: The Hard Line Between Revolutionary and Terrorist

'War Mind' - Anthony Freda Art
Daisy Luther, Contributor
Activist Post

In a war, it appears that it’s easy to become just as bad as the monsters that you are fighting.

Just ask the survivors of a killing spree in Afghanistan last March, when US soldiers went on a rampage, killing 17 civilians, 9 of them children. Only one soldier, Army Staff Sgt Robert Bales, was charged but the witnesses have a different story:
One mother-of-six, whose husband was killed during the incident, believes there were as many as 20 people involved.

She told SBS Dateline journalist Yalda Hakim: ‘When they shot dead my husband, I tried to drag him into the house, they’d shot him in the head so his brain was all over my hands. I had to use a bowl for his blood.

‘I saw more than 20 people when I looked out the house. The Americans pointed their guns at me and threatened me, telling me not to leave the house or they’d kill me.’

Another witness, an eight-year-old girl called Noorbinak, said a gunman shot her family’s dog before shooting her father in the foot and dragging her mother by the hair. When her father screamed, he was shot dead, before the gunman shot Noorbinak in the leg.

She said: ‘One man entered the room and the others were standing in the yard, holding lights.’

The brother of another victim claimed that his nephews and nieces saw numerous soldiers involved in the assault, all wearing headlamps and with lights strapped to the ends of their guns.

He said: ‘They don’t know whether there were 15 or 20, however many there were.’ (Source)
If it seems somehow more acceptable that this happened across the world in a 3rd world country with whom we were at war, then how about an example closer to home?

The law-abiding, legal gun owners of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, would also bear witness to the savagery of which those in uniform are capable.
Few Americans realize that on February 28, 1993 when Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) agents in National Guard helicopters zoomed in on the Branch Davidians’ church and home, Mount Carmel Center, they did so with guns blazing, like Americans raiding a Vietnamese village in that far off war….These agents shot wildly and threw grenades at the building for more than an hour, even as Davidians called 911 to beg for a ceasefire….For weeks the FBI sabotaged negotiations through lies, threats and insults, destruction of property, shining of bright lights, blaring of loud music and violent sounds, and terrifying helicopter overflights and fake tank rammings….Their goal was to destroy the building and its damaging evidence, even if that meant the massacre of dozens of men, women and children, all witnesses to the brutal attack….On April 19, 1993, the FBI used its tanks systematically to turn Mount Carmel into a lethal fire trap. Tanks collapsed the trap door leading to the underground tornado shelter and all three staircases. Tanks rammed a concrete room sheltering dozens of Davidians until the ceiling collapsed, killing women and children before the fire. Long booms saturated the building with flammable gas, probably mixed with flammable solvents…Attorney General Janet Reno and the Justice Department were not content with murdering 82 Davidians, 61 of them women and children. They were intent upon prosecuting and punishing the few survivors whose “crime” was defending themselves against an unprovoked paramilitary assault. (Source)

It’s very clear that hostility is boiling up in America right now.  The lines of battle are being drawn. On the one side, there are Patriots who are enraged at the systematic desecration of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. On the other are those who are shredding those same documents, legislation by legislation. The fight is on between liberty and tyranny.

As emotions run high, so do the comments on different forums and websites. People are buckling on their theoretical swords because the battle is near.

But when that battle comes, what will these people do?  How will people behave in the heat of battle?  Will they maintain their ethics and remember that the fight is against evil or will they fight fire with fire?  Will those on the side of freedom become as monstrous and tyrannical as the people they are fighting against?
Wherefore the greater care must be taken to temper it with humanity, lest by too much imitating beasts we absolutely forget the man.
- Hugo Grotus, Morality of War
If we become the same inhumane monsters as those who would oppress us, what, then, is the point?  If you behave dishonorably, then how can you consider yourself morally superior to those upon whom you are waging war?  There is a line between war and terrorism.No matter what your initial intentions and motivations, once you cross that line, you are just as evil as those you purport to defeat.

To quote my good friend, American freeman patriot, N.O., “We just can’t afford to become animals in such circumstances.  We all, for the sake of our own moral survival and our communities’ moral survival, must step up and become the law of the land, and stand by it .”

If people are fighting for freedom from a perspective of morals, then rules of engagement must apply.  Mercy must be present.  Warriors must be people of honor and control.  The Geneva Convention, ratified in 1949, is very clear on these concepts:
  • Non-combatants must not be targeted for violence or attacks on their personal dignity.
  • Extensive destruction or appropriation of property should not occur in a wanton fashion.
This means that innocent lives should be spared. This means that the widespread destruction of homes, the pillaging of private property and the razing of the countryside – these actions are out of bounds. It doesn’t matter who the innocents are related to. It doesn’t matter who the innocents voted for, whether they are a different race or whether they swipe an EBT card to pay for their groceries. Non-combatants should be spared and should absolutely never be directly targeted by any soldier on either side.

The victims of war have changed over the past 100 years.
  • At the beginning of the twentieth century only 10%-15% of those who died in war were civilians.
  • In World War 2 more than 50% of those who died were civilians.
  • By the end of the century over 75% of those killed in war were civilians. (Source)
Whether or not the other side adheres to the principles of war should not play in to one’s own ethical decisions.  The concept of total war is unnecessary, immoral, and a step into the abyss of evil. (Total war is defined by Google as “A war that is unrestricted in terms of the weapons used, the territory or combatants involved, or the objectives pursued, esp. one in which the laws of war are disregarded.“)
Those who would lead must lead by example.  They must seriously consider their moral compasses and then direct their followers accordingly.
The consummate leader cultivates the moral law, and strictly adheres to method and discipline;
thus it is in his power to control success.  
- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
If being on the high road and side of goodness aren’t enough to convince people that their actions should be above reproach, then consider the importance of public opinion.

Wars are won and lost on the tide of public opinion.  No one will fight more viciously than  an opponent whose innocent family has been slaughtered. No one will be more determined than a person protecting home and loved ones. Committing acts of evil gives the impetus of righteous anger to who were victims of the atrocities.

In a letter on this topic, N.O. wrote,
We all need to take the high road on this or we will fail in our efforts.  Public opinion will win or lose you the war.   We must protect their lives even more so than our own women and children .  Why? … because eventually the war will end and the more brutal we are the more they will fight us to the death; the more our own women and children will suffer and die.  WE MUST STAY ON THE HIGH ROAD.
Behaviors like targeting non-combatants makes the force that commits such acts the “bad guys”.  It doesn’t matter what they began by defending or fighting for – committing evil means that you are evil.  People will fear you and they will not support or aid you willingly.  You become someone to fight against, not for. N.O. explained this from a strategic standpoint.
If you start killing, abusing and defiling the non-combatant innocent women and children on either side of the conflict …  you will lose the support of the non-combatant public at large ! You will lose your access to local supplies, intel, clean water, food, and will soon be fighting not only a government army (who are now more determined to fight you to the death to protect their own women and children), but also fighting against the local guerrillas, who are fighting you just to protect their women and children from you and your men.  They will stand their ground and fight with a vengeance to their death or yours.
More compelling than even this is the thought that patriots are the people who hope to rebuild an ethical, moral society.  How can people behave as animals and expect to create a good, pure and just society?  Remember what you are fighting for and behave accordingly, for the result you get will be the one you earn through your actions.

In conclusion, no matter which side of the argument you come down on, the justifications of

“Following orders”
“They did it first”
“God told Moses to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan”
“It was war”
“I’m a soldier”

are never enough to defend the commission of immoral acts, especially against the innocents. A uniform is not a exemption for decency and being “right” is not a dispensation of accountability. It isn’t the uniform who makes the man, but the man who makes the uniform.

I am not a soldier, but I believe in defending what is right, good and innocent, regardless of politics, war, nationality and “sides”.  I believe in God, liberty, and honor and I refuse to be dissuaded from my intention to live by those standards.

I believe that the real enemy has no specific face – it is one that attacks from within us all.  The enemy that all of us must resist is the temptation to do evil during terrible times. We will create the law of the land. The surest way to end up with a Mad Max world is to become as vicious and ruthless as those against whom we would rebel.

 Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

Daisy Luther is a freelance writer and editor. Her website, The Organic Prepper, where this article first appeared, offers information on healthy prepping, including premium nutritional choices, general wellness and non-tech solutions. You can follow Daisy on Facebook and Twitter, and you can email her at


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Anonymous said...

Excellent article Daisy.

People should keep the French Revolution in mind here as it is a good example of what you speak of.

In the name of deposing tyrants much of France was turned into a chaotic hell-hole where tyranny became standard for far too many people, with rape, murder, theft/looting and other criminal acts becoming commonplace.

Replacing tyrants with even greater tyranny doesn't help anyone, except the tyrants themselves who gain power from it.

The main push of the French Revolution was to remove the authority of the Catholic Church from the halls of power in France.

A few years after the revolution however Napoleon reinstated the Catholic Church to it's prior position because although tyrannical in their authoritarian controls they provided order and stability, and the people hated the disordered tyranny resulting from the revolution more so than the authoritarianism of the Church.

Totalitarianism sucks but when the alternative option is being raped, murdered and so on by roving groups of criminals feeding off of utter chaos the order and stability of totalitarianism actually is more appealing to many people.

The quickest way to lose/fail a revolution is to become the thing you are revolting against(or become worse).


Anonymous said...

"If being on the high road and side of goodness aren’t enough to convince people that their actions should be above reproach, then consider the importance of public opinion."

Just fyi, no one's actions are above reproach. A big reason war is such a problem is that different groups of humans believe they have the moral 'high ground'. This kind of thinking more often than not leads to one group claiming dominance over another. They then proceed to subjugate the other group, claiming to 'know what's best'.

In the end, we are all one species. No one is better than anyone else. We are all in this learning process we call 'life'. There will never be a 'perfect' morality. This is why one group cannot claim absolute authority over another.

Brendan R

Anonymous said...

"only love is powerful enough to defeat hatred."
Martin Luther King.

I marched behind Dr. King. We were surrounded by rednecks with rifles in their pickups and armed cops with dogs. We had only our commitment to justice and our pledge to non-violent civil disobedience. We won.

If you plan to create a peaceful, just society with weapons of violence, you have already lost.

The only strategy in which the means do not contradict the end is non-violent resistance.

The British empire, with its formidable military, lost to the non-violent tactics of Ghandi; the largest military in history was unable to defeat a backward 3d world nation without a navy or airforce in Vietnam. (It cost them 5 million civilian lives, but in the end, they won)

Violence begets violence. The Constitution in Clause 15 and 16, Article 1, Section 8, makes it clear that the purpose of the Militia, which is organized, armed, and disciplined by the government, is to repel foreign invasion and put down insurrections.

In the past 20 years, Americans have killed themselves with guns at a rate more than the fascists killed Americans in WWII. More guns, more violence, more private militias (like Timothy McVeigh, mass murderer who claimed the right to attack the govt).....will lead to more death and destruction. The only successful revolutions in modern times have been led by non-violent protests, including the first rebellion of the ARab spring in Tunesia and including the ousting of Marcos in the Phillipines by unarmed protesters.

If you think you will be fight the government with your guns, you are on a par with the warlords and armed gangs of Afghanistan, Somalia, and other chaotic societies.

If you have a gun in your home, a recent Harvard review of the gun violence literature found that the chances of a gun death in your home is increased by nearly 3 times. The majority of gun murders, according to the FBI, happens between family and friends (53%). If you have a gun in in your home, and you have children, you are guilty of child endangerment, as gun ownership is proven to be a strong risk factor for a lethal shooting or accident.

If you want to change America, get rid of your guns and engage in positive education and civil disobedience. A civil war which killed 750,000 people (out of 22 million or 1 in 30) did not end persecution of African-Americans. That took millions of unarmed protesters exercising the right to free speech and assembly.

As one of our greatest generals and Presidents said: "War is settles nothing." (Eisenhower)

Us your intelligence, your capacity for solidarity with others, and your courage to challenge oppressive laws and conditions, not the tools of mass destruction.

Activist post contributors (like Susan Posel) asserted that by xmas, NATO would be marching up to your door and confiscating your weapons; others asserted that the chances of a nuclear war was over 80%. Disregard such fear-mongers and remember: "Only love is powerful enough to defeat hatred." Change the world with your compassion, not your hatred and anger. As Jesus taught 2000 yrs ago, "Love your enemy." It's time we understood the wisdom in that teaching.

Kevin Patrick Wright said...

Remember, the "elite" will do everything to avoid the front lines. In fact, they will have reserved "box seats" in the great stadium of life. "They" will pretend to hoard ammunition, release the drones, "nuke" us, and "confiscate" weapons from the masses. In reality, what they are actually doing is creating a "mad rush" for everyone to stockpile every weapon they can get hold of. This has multiple "benefits":
Weapons manufacturers, lobbyists, those with financial and "other" interests, will all PROFIT greatly from the PANIC that ensues.

If, in fact, THEY do manage to "confiscate" OUR guns, think about this:
-remember Americans in Vietnam?
-remember Russians in Afghanistan?
-remember the British against "heathen" militiamen?
Sticks and stones still break bones! 'Necessity is the mother of invention' and always leads to "improvisation". If "unarmed", how many of you will resort to I.E.D.'s, personal drones, "printed" weapons, household chemicals, gas/oil/Styrofoam mix, and other simple yet "barbaric" means to stay alive and protect your family?

There are ~350 million people in the USA, and a lot of forests, lakes, mountains, caves, bayous, etc. outside of big cities. Why do you think Agenda 21 exists? It is YOU that THEY need to be "sustainable" (harvested) if THEY are to remain in power for the NEW AGE. Servitude awaits you if you continue to CONSUME their cheap plastic CRAP, and keep financing THEIR genocide of "our best and brightest". They track us & our children's every move. They know when we sleep, where we work, our bad habits,... How well do you know them? Do you know where they live, where their children go to school, etc.? Again, these tactics may sound "barbaric", but what if it really comes to US or THEM? Be wise as $erpeant$! NO FEAR!

According to some historians, new age thinkers, etc.: At the end of every "age", SACRIFICES welcome the NEW AGE (deity)! At the end of the Age of Taurus, they sacrificed the BULL (some still carry on this tradition - Spanish Bullfights,...). At the end of Aries, they sacrificed the Ram, etc. 2012 is, supposedly, the end of Pisces (fish symbol), so what will be sacrificed?

Most, if not all, wars throughout history have had BOTH sides financed by the same money changers. Regardless of who "wins" the battle/war, they PROFIT. They also "divide and conquer", usually along racist lines, and will gain further PROFIT when the dust settles... WHO gets the contracts to REBUILD everything destroyed in war? FRIENDS of corporations, banksters, war-mongers, and other weasels, that's who!

What "solution" would seem to be most logical to you?:
-Write nice letters corrupt politicians and 'demand' they listen to your "grievances"?
-Keep "prepping" for zombie attacks and invasions from aliens?
-Believe it when "race riots" create "Civil War" amongst We The People, when in fact it is propaganda from "them" or false-flag events that create the "conflict" (divide and conquer)?
or, do we:
-Throw the proverbial "Lions" to the proverbial "Christians"?
-Shut down their propaganda machine (MSM) and make "citizens arrests" of all tyrants?
-Live a simple, happy, and peaceful life, relying on local community support for everything you need?
-Stop "them" cold in their tracks using simple, non-violent methods? STOP GIVING THEM THE DAMN MONEY TO ENSLAVE AND KILL YOU! Why is that so hard for most to comprehend?

I'm not "suggesting" anything by the aforementioned statements. These are just ideas to ponder and a means for creating a dialogue in order to resolve the current socio-economic mess that we are in! Happy thoughts 8)


That Homeless "Crazy" guy


Dr. Goldstein said...

To: "Anonymous"

Don't cherry-pick from the Bible to bash the courageous writers on this website. Jesus was not some limp-wristed pansy who turned a blind eye to government atrocities.

Jesus was the fearless leader who boldly flipped over the tables of the moneychangers, and made them scramble around the floor like rats chasing down their coins.

We live in a horrific time when truth-tellers and bloggers, like the writers at ActivistPost, are all written down on secret government lists. As the policies of Bush-Obama escalate, such as domestic assassinations and NDAA indefinite detentions in FEMA Camps, it is these courageous truth tellers who will be the very first targets.

It's already happening. Learn what happened to Blogger Brandon Raub. Raub's lawyer revealed that "in Virginia alone" 20,000 citizens per year are being snatched up by Big Brother, with no charges being filed. Raub's case went high-profile so he walked. What about the other 19,999 Virginians who got "detained"??

Anonymous said...

Dale, members of the Michigan militia that I know personally where there when Tim M. came to his single visit. he was immediately forced to leave. Like everyone else who spends their time trolling the internet , you have your facts wrong.Disarm and weaken your own friends and family at your own risk.

Anonymous said...

Above post by "anonymous" was brought to you by the CIA and your tax dollars. "Put your guns down and talk to the government nicely about things". LOL. You mean just like Iraq did? There's no discussing things with criminal sociopaths who fake cry on tv over the deaths of American children while the very same morning writing death orders for Afghan children.

Lemurianhealer said...

Absolutely yes!
Liberty. Vrs Tyranny= Freedom WITHOUT Responsibility

canobs said...

We live in a market economy and war is quoted on wall street and the stock market(Halliburton,NorthrupGrumman,Raytheon,GeneralDynamics etc...)and both sides implicated in a war is financed by the banksters (they financed Napoleon wars)with hugues profits, so don,t expect wars to end as long as the banks will be privatized(as the Fed is)__ these people do not care about civilians women and children killed, they care about money and profits first__ As for religions, they do not end wars either (crusades, inquisition)and sometimes start new ones.

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