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If you could live in any state in America, where would you go? During troubled times like these, what is the best place in the United States to live? A lot of people are asking these kinds of questions. Our economy is on the verge of collapse, natural disasters are becoming more frequent and more intense, the U.S. population is becoming angrier and more frustrated by the day, our government has become incredibly oppressive and controlling, war could break out at any time and evidence that society is breaking down is all around us.
As our world becomes increasingly unstable, many families are considering moving somewhere else. But what areas are best and what areas should be avoided? Is there really a "best place to live" in America?
Well, the truth is that each family is facing a different set of circumstances. If you have a great support system where you live, it can be really tough to pick up and move 3000 miles away from that support system. If you have a great job where you live now, it can be really tough to move some place where there may be no job at all for you. But without a doubt there are some areas of the country that will be far better off than others in the event of a major economic collapse. This article will take a look at each of the 50 U.S. states and will list some of the pros and cons for moving to each one.
Not all of the factors listed below will be important to you, and a few have even been thrown in for humor. But if you are thinking of moving in the near future hopefully this list will give you some food for thought.
A few years ago when my wife and I were living near Washington D.C. we knew that we wanted a change and we went through this kind of a process. We literally evaluated areas from coast to coast. In the end, we found a place that is absolutely perfect for us. But different things are important to different people.
And if I gave your particular state a low rating, please don't think that I am trashing the entire state or all of the people who live there.
For example, there are some absolutely wonderful people that live in the state of California, and there are some areas of California that I would not mind visiting at all. But for the times that are coming I am convinced that it is going to be a really bad place to live.
Not that I have all the answers either. Hopefully this article can get some debates started, and hopefully those debates will help people that are thinking of moving to another state to be more informed.
The following are some pros and cons for all 50 states....
Alabama
Pros: warm weather, southern hospitality, relatively low population density
Cons: hurricanes, tornadoes, crime, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, rampant poverty
Overall Rating: C+
Alaska
Pros: great fishing, lots of empty space, low population density, great for rugged individualistsCons: very high cost of living, earthquakes, volcanoes, extremely cold, short growing season, too much snow, potentially cut off from supplies from the lower 48 states during an emergency situation
Overall Rating: B
Arizona
Pros: warm weather
Cons: illegal immigration, wildfires, return of dust bowl conditions, not enough jobs, not enough rain, multiple nuclear power plants, crime, gang violence, Phoenix
Overall Rating: D+
Arkansas
Pros: southern hospitality, warm weather, Ozark National Forest
Cons: tornadoes, Clintons, New Madrid fault zone, multiple nuclear power plants, crime, rampant poverty
Overall Rating: C
California
Pros: Disneyland, warm weather, Malibu
Cons: high taxes, Jerry Brown, earthquakes, mudslides, wildfires, gang violence, crime, traffic, rampant poverty, insane politicians, ridiculous regulations, bad schools, political correctness, illegal immigration, not enough jobs, air pollution, multiple nuclear power plants, possible tsunami threat along the coast, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, Stockton, Sacramento, huge drug problem, high population density, the state government is broke, many more reasons to leave California right here
Overall Rating: F
Colorado
Pros: Rocky Mountains, Colorado Springs
Cons: wildfires, illegal immigration, short growing season, not enough rain, too much snow, huge drug problem
Overall Rating: B
Connecticut
Pros: beautiful homes
Cons: high taxes, insane politicians, ridiculous regulations, political correctness, short growing season, multiple nuclear power plants, high population density
Overall Rating: C-
Delaware
Pros: good fishing
Cons: Joe Biden, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, crime, high population density
Overall Rating: DFlorida
Pros: University of Florida Gators, oranges, low taxes, southern hospitality, Disneyworld, Gainesville, warm weather, beautiful beaches, Daytona
Cons: hurricanes, most of the state is barely above sea level, high population density, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, crime, gang violence, illegal immigration
Overall Rating: C
Georgia
Pros: peaches, southern hospitality, warm weather
Cons: not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, crime, gang violence, flesh eating disease, Atlanta
Overall Rating: B-
Hawaii
Pros: awesome beaches, warm weather, great vacation destination
Cons: vulnerable to tsunamis, very high cost of living, volcanoes, traffic, high population density, high taxes
Overall Rating: C-
Idaho
Pros: awesome people live there, great potatoes, low population density, high concentration of liberty-minded individuals, low crime, Sandpoint, Coeur d'Alene, north Idaho has plenty of water compared to the rest of the interior West, beautiful scenery
Cons: cold in the winter, wildfires, short growing season, not enough jobs
Overall Rating: A
Illinois
Pros: once you get away from Chicago things are not quite so bad
Cons: Barack Obama, drought, New Madrid fault zone, high population density, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, crime, gang violence, Chicago, East St. Louis, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, mob robberies, the state government is drowning in debt
Overall Rating: D-
Indiana
Pros: it is in better shape than Illinois, good farming, high Amish population
Cons: drought, tornadoes, the city of Gary, relatively high population density, near the New Madrid fault zone, a "rust belt" state
Overall Rating: C-
Iowa
Pros: low population density, low crime, good farming
Cons: drought, tornadoes, cold in the winter, multiple nuclear power plants, too much snow, very flat
Overall Rating: B-
Kansas
Pros: low population density, low crime, good farming
Cons: drought, tornadoes, return of dust bowl conditions, very flat
Overall Rating: BKentucky
Pros: southern hospitality, great horses, Lexington
Cons: New Madrid fault zone, not enough jobs, rampant poverty, Louisville
Overall Rating: C
Louisiana
Pros: southern hospitality, warm weather
Cons: hurricanes, New Orleans, not enough jobs, tornadoes, multiple nuclear power plants, oil spills, crime, gang violence, rampant poverty
Overall Rating: D
Maine
Pros: low population density, low crime, polite people
Cons: extremely cold, short growing season, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, too much snow
Overall Rating: B-
Maryland
Pros: the Washington Redskins play there
Cons: Baltimore, borders Washington D.C., high population density, really bad traffic, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, multiple nuclear power plants, crime, gang violence
Overall Rating: C-
Massachusetts
Pros: beautiful homes
Cons: high taxes, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, high population density, short growing season, almost everything is illegal in Massachusetts
Overall Rating: D+
Michigan
Pros: once you get away from Detroit and Flint things get better
Cons: Detroit, Flint, Dearborn, extremely cold, short growing season, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, too much snow, a "rust belt" state
Overall Rating: D-
Minnesota
Pros: land of 10,000 lakes
Cons: extremely cold, short growing season, multiple nuclear power plants, too much snow, high taxes
Overall Rating: CMississippi
Pros: southern hospitality, relatively low population density, warm weather
Cons: hurricanes, tornadoes, not enough jobs, rampant poverty, crime
Overall Rating: C+
Missouri
Pros: good farming, Branson
Cons: drought, tornadoes, New Madrid fault zone, not enough jobs, crime
Overall Rating: C
Montana
Pros: low population density, low taxes, high concentration of liberty-minded individuals, Missoula, Kalispell
Cons: extremely cold in the winter, wildfires, short growing season, not enough rain, near Yellowstone super volcano, rampant poverty, too much snow
Overall Rating: B+
Nebraska
Pros: low population density, good farming
Cons: tornadoes, drought, multiple nuclear power plants, cold in the winter, very flat
Overall Rating: B
Nevada
Pros: low population density, lots of empty space, low taxes, warm weather
Cons: Harry Reid, Las Vegas, Reno, not enough water, not enough rain, wildfires, hard to grow food, not enough jobs, crime, gang violence, huge drug problem, Yucca Mountain
Overall Rating: D+
New Hampshire
Pros: low crime, beautiful homes
Cons: extremely cold, short growing season, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, too much snow
Overall Rating: C
New Jersey
Pros: anyone got something?
Cons: high population density, Camden, Newark, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, Atlantic City, crime, gang violence
Overall Rating: D-
New Mexico
Pros: low population density, warm weather
Cons: illegal immigration, wildfires, return of dust bowl conditions, not enough jobs, not enough rain, crime, gang violence, huge drug problem
Overall Rating: C-New York
Pros: the entire state is not like New York City
Cons: New York City, Mayor Bloomberg, high taxes, cold in the winter, high population density, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, the "too big to fail" banks
Overall Rating: D
North Carolina
Pros: southern hospitality, warm weather, Great Smoky Mountains National Park
Cons: hurricanes, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants
Overall Rating: B
North Dakota
Pros: low crime, lots of oil-related jobs, low population density
Cons: extremely cold, short growing season, too much snow
Overall Rating: B
Ohio
Pros: the Cincinnati Reds, the Pro Football Hall of Fame, high Amish population
Cons: not enough jobs, cold in the winter, multiple nuclear power plants, high population density, Toledo, Cleveland, a "rust belt" state
Overall Rating: C
Oklahoma
Pros: warm weather, good farming
Cons: drought, tornadoes, wildfires, return of dust bowl conditions, not enough rain, crime, Oklahoma City, rampant poverty
Overall Rating: C
Oregon
Pros: tremendous natural beauty
Cons: high taxes, Portland, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, not enough jobs, huge drug problem, possible tsunami threat along the coast
Overall Rating: C-
Pennsylvania
Pros: high Amish population
Cons: high population density, Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, a "rust belt" state
Overall Rating: CRhode Island
Pros: so small that most people don't notice their problems
Cons: the state is flat broke, short growing season, political correctness, ridiculous regulations, insane politicians, not enough jobs, high population density
Overall Rating: D+
South Carolina
Pros: southern hospitality, warm weather, Myrtle Beach
Cons: hurricanes, not enough jobs, multiple nuclear power plants, crime, gang violence, rampant poverty
Overall Rating: B
South Dakota
Pros: low population density, fun tourist traps, the Badlands, Mount Rushmore
Cons: extremely cold, short growing season, very flat, too much snow
Overall Rating: B
Tennessee
Pros: Nashville, Michael W. Smith, southern hospitality, warm weather, Gatlinburg
Cons: Memphis, New Madrid fault zone, multiple nuclear power plants, crime, gang violence, rampant poverty
Overall Rating: B-
Texas
Pros: low taxes, warm weather, Austin
Cons: drought, illegal immigration, tornadoes, wildfires, West Nile Virus, the Dallas Cowboys, return of dust bowl conditions, speed traps, not enough rain, multiple nuclear power plants, George W. Bush, crime
Overall Rating: B-
Utah
Pros: beautiful mountains, low crime, low population density
Cons: cold in the winter, wildfires, Salt Lake City, short growing season, not enough rain, illegal to collect rain
Overall Rating: B-
Vermont
Pros: low crime, beautiful homes
Cons: cold in the winter, insane politicians, ridiculous regulations, short growing season, political correctness, not enough jobs, too much snow
Overall Rating: CVirginia
Pros: the University of Virginia, southern hospitality, Charlottesville
Cons: borders Washington D.C., high population density, multiple nuclear power plants, Richmond, really bad traffic in northern Virginia
Overall Rating: B-
Washington
Pros: the eastern half of the state is quite nice and much different from the coast
Cons: way too much rain along the coast, volcanoes, wildfires, insane politicians, ridiculous regulations, political correctness, not enough jobs, possible tsunami threat along the coast, Seattle
Overall Rating: C
West Virginia
Pros: beautiful mountains
Cons: not enough jobs, rampant poverty
Overall Rating: B
Wisconsin
Pros: cheese, the Green Bay Packers
Cons: extremely cold, short growing season, multiple nuclear power plants, too much snow,
Overall Rating: B-
Wyoming
Pros: low population density, lots of empty space, low taxes
Cons: extremely cold, too windy, too flat, wildfires, short growing season, not enough rain, Yellowstone super volcano
Overall Rating: B-
What do you think of these rankings?
What do you think is the best place to live in America?
Do you have any additional pros and cons that should be added to this list?
Please feel free to post a comment with your thoughts below....
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This article first appeared here at the Economic Collapse. Michael Snyder is a writer, speaker and activist who writes and edits his own blogs The American Dream and Economic Collapse Blog. Follow him on Twitter here.
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58 comments:
This a crock of Sh#$!
Your knowledge of California is severely restricted. California is more than Malibu. Get out of the cities into the mountains, you'll find everything you need nothing you don't.
Hey! I grew up in Webster Groves, Missouri..a small suburb outside of St. Louis....which...in 1968 was chosen by CBS News to be the subject of an hour-long, nationally broadcast documentary about growing up in "six-square miles of the American Dream"...that is right...my hometown was selected twice 1968 and 1978 to be the subject of such a show....best city in America....Ha! Read my memoir about growing up with corrupt law enforcement parents and family members...as well as all that baby-boomer dysfunction we are all so familiar with...Ha!
Regards,
RJ O'Guillory
Author-
Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family, Living in the Perfect American Suburb
Far west Texas (Bi Bend region) DOES have drought sometimes and with it wildfires. NO tornadoes in mountainous Big Bend. Close to Mexican border so if you must flee the country it ain't hard to get into Mexico in BB area (and not hard to get back into US, either). Liberty minded folks with a few rampant liberals and neo-cons thrown in (Ron Paul very popular out here). NOT much crime, no west nile virus that I can tell, some illegals but what do you expect on border with Mexico? Believe it or not most cops and Border Patrol folks are nice and do things constitutionally (though folks from California might disagree with that...many speeders come from Cal). No nuke plants out here, and who gives a crap about the Cowboys?
California is 95% rural and northern California is actually really great. I'm sick of the whole state being stereotyped as LA.
And I'm surprised at you , Michael...Neo-Nazi capital of the US Sandpoint, Idaho? Really???
Don't happen to live in Idaho do you? Moreover, you didn't mention gun laws.
I had to laugh at some of the Texas “cons” (I’m a Texan).
West Nile virus? It’s killed a handful of people out of 26 million. Most of them are elderly. The common flu kills thousands more.
George W Bush? He’s imprisoned in his little North Dallas compound, unable to travel anywhere, fearing arrest. What further harm can he do?
Illegal immigrants? Forgetting the idiocy of declaring a sovereign human being “illegal,” more migrants just means more customers for us businessmen.
Tornados? I’ve lived here 28 years and never have seen one. Do you have any idea just how BIG Texas is? These twisters are spread pretty thin.
Dallas Cowboys? Right on! I keep hoping they’ll move to Mexico.
Have fun in the goiter belt, y'all! Don't let your uncle rape neither!
I have lived in the western costal states & enjoyed the beauty of the warm weather of Southern Cal. where you could be on the beach in the morning & be in the mountains that night with snow on the ground. Then up to Brimington WA where it rains so much it is depressing. When you do get good weather the State Parks are great to lay back. I live in Orlando Fl befor the huge growth took place & then moved to Osteen to get away from the traffic & to be closer to the beach. I left there for Gainsville & enjoyed the food & nice people, but it also began to grow. 1985 I returned to my home town in Jacks Creek TN, this a very nice place close to great fishing, the TN River, great hunting, low taxes, crime is also low & I am 85 miles from Memphis where the crime is very high & corruption is commonn as it is in DC & NY City.
I started to talk to people close to me some years back about the economy & most thought I was nuts until they lost most of their life savings in 07-08 & after that that took me serious. We started to hold meetings to share ideals to get thru what is coming, we have small farmers, small biz owners & folks from all walks of life that have come together to help watch out for each other. So far our plan is working great & I will not expose those plans because the fact there is no privacy on the net.
While living in Chicago, someone said to me how glad he would be to get his orders to go to sea & I agreed!
Lol Idaho? Fucking Idaho gets an A? You do know that many of the "liberty minded" people there are racist pieces of trash and Caldwell (Idaho's 3rd or 4th largest city) is completely overrun by gang bangers who came up from California running from either the law or people a little more badass than them? Aside from Boise, Idaho is a shithole.
Gosh, people are so sensitive---I thought this was an amusing generalization of each state--I enjoyed it!
I like this website, but this is one of the most mis-leading articles I have ever read. I still support this website, but please dont use this info for making decisions.
I still support this website tho, it brings MUCH good info..
Reading the cons of a state, some of which would make a state an "F" to me, and finding they got a C or B, just doesn't work. I live in Northern Arizona, which is very different from Phoenix, so there is also the problem that artificial borders don't take into consideration varying conditions. I appreciated the pro's and con's that were listed. Thanks for doing the research on that. I'd like to see gun laws of each state taken into consideration too. Some of us don't want to live where we are not allowed to defend ourselves.
Sorry, don't want to insult anyone from Idaho on here. I still stand by my statements.
For Colorado, too much snow? Think again, u need to check the facts before typing this article. Really, not enough snow here in Denver area. We want more snow for next winter!
Wow. This was a horrible article - really bad - Amateurish really underscores what I'm trying to describe - so horrible will have to do. Is Michael Snyder 12 years old? Does Activist rubber stamp every article without reading it?
I live in CA and love it here! What was said about CA is all true but there is alot that wasn't mentioned. Not only do we have the most variety in produce but its the best! Within just a few hours you can go from beautiful beach to snow skiing in the mountains. Best wine country! Most culture and diversity! Best seasons! Awesome colleges! We have some of everything here.
Sorry, but this list is about as thought out as a garage sale-
It is clear that you know very little about most of the states that you critique- States are much more than the largest cities that EVERYONE knows about, and an Atlas should not be your only criteria for judging a States worthiness or value.
Perhaps you should actually go to some of the States, urban and rural areas BEFORE you try to sell people on this utterly stupid and ignorance heavy list-
I've been to all but a few of them, some I know a little about, some I know more about and some I know a great deal about. It's painfully obvious that you haven't even been to MOST of them, or perhaps you have traveled through on the interstate.
Damn- even for Activist post standards, this is a terrible, awful and totally baseless list. Please people, do yourself a favor and ignore it.
I completely agree with you! When it comes to LA, I love visiting there! Then I go back to my little town where its peaceful and quiet
WHOEVER WROTE THIS PIECE OF SHIT: YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED!! I live in Washington--Seattle to be exact--and it is one of the most beautiful cities in America, hands down. Western Washington is amazing, as well as Eastern Washington. There is so much more to say about Washington than the stupid shit you came up with. Let me guess: are you from Idaho? It's the only state that you gave an "A". I've been to Idaho, and while it's nice enough I guess (a lot like Western Washington, actually) but nothing special. Not better than Washington, and not the best in the entire country, you fucking idiot!!
California: hundreds of square miles of mountains. The most fertile soil in the world. A growing season so long, we get two crops of wheat a year, three crops of corn, and four cuts of alfalfa. Three quarters of the fruits and vegetables sold in the country are grown in California. The Hetch-Hetchy water system. North of Napa to the border of Oregon (a four hour drive on good highways) has low-density population. We have some poor schools in the inner cities (because funding schools through local housing values builds that problem right into the system), but we also have one of the greatest university systems in the world. Yup, we're broke. Who isn't? But that won't last. And we have a world-class power house of innovation in Silicon Valley. And you may despise Los Angeles, but it is the world nexus of film and television.
Classic. People defend their state like it's a freaking baseball team. The article couldn't possibly have broken down every possible pro and con, demographics, economics, etc. It's meant to be general. Having traveled around the U.S. and living in many states this article is really more accurate than not. Not perfect by any means, but very good.
Stay away from the Dakotas unless you get a job that pays well enough to live there. I've lived/worked in both states and found many of the people very petty and mean spirited -- they'll like you as long as you have something they want from you. The myth of low cost of living is an illusion as you will pay surprisingly high prices for just about anything from groceries to rent. I moved over to the high COL state of Minnesota and found it cheaper to live here with all costs factored-in -- like no taxes on food or clothing.
where I live Lake Minnetonka MN
C'mon folks, even if Michael was only able to get a few more Americans to think along the lines of where to live peacefully, safely, independently and free, this was well-worth the read. Yet, like others, I would like to see, state by state, where the Second Amendment gun laws and addition of Fluoride in municipal drinking water supplies now stand.
For me, it was acutely alarming to learn how the collection of rain water in Utah is already outlawed since currently there is a man in Oregon who was arrested and is now suing for his resumed right to collect rain water in open ponds on his own property for reasons of agriculture and farm animals.
Also in Oregon, it is equally alarming that the Governor, Mayor and City Council are currently pitching the media to gain more public support for their already leaning "favorable" vote to be done on Sept 12 to add first-ever sodium fluoride to Portland's municipal drinking water supply. As some know, this is colloquially known as The Rose City since it's home to the annual Rose Festival, and is where I grew up.
This largest city in Oregon extends out in every direction to be a huge metropolitan region and over time, the insidious toxicity of fluoride will adversely affect hundreds of thousands of people [innately foreign to body, steadily assaults skeleton [fractures], brain [lowers I.Q.], respiratory system [lung issues], those vulnerable [sick-young-aged] after such pesticide-aluminum-ceramic industrial waste by-product [currently sourced from China] has been resisted by both democratic will and vote of the local People for no less than "54" years. Yet, via recent stealth-like lobbying of elected officials by a self-ordained NGO advisory group that calls itself Upstream Public Health and openly states their mission is to save the teeth of Oregon's poorest children ['to reduce state's high rate of cavities'] the Truth is, this can ONLY be done by reducing the excessive daily intake of refined sugars, like sucrose, HFCS, corn syrup, fructose, etc. which are now so egregiously prevalent in the highly processed food chain.
As a result, we sorely need Board Certified [and astutely honest] Nutritionists to better educate and advocate for all families, not self-serving globalist advisors and compliant local politicians who quietly make their own private-partnership decisions by consensus 'for the People' which will taint the public drinking water supply by a mandate that forces every man, woman and child to ingest this toxic chemical, whether they like the medicinal deceit of "one size fits all" or not.
As a topical dental application or mouthwash, fluoride has been shown, in some cases, to be temporarily protective against cavities, but as the black box warning asserts on toothpaste that contains fluoride, it should NEVER, even in minute quantities, be swallowed or taken into the body of humans or animals. If it is, the consumer is instructed to immediately find the nearest ER for "poison control." Further, if one realizes there is already non-disclosed fluoride being added to a variety of foods, fruit juices, pharmaceuticals [300+] and toothpaste, the public drinking water supply is the last -NEVER- place it should be allowed.
Needless to say, along with where to live our lives more safely and independently, we have multiple fronts to be wary of in order to counter the treachery of such bureaucratic and elitist oppression which, per openly stated edicts of the UN's Agenda 21, not only aim to autocratically control via their reductionist and collectivist means, but also endeavors to disarm us all, one way or the other.
Albeit, ONLY if We, Majority Citizens FAIL to repeatedly, assertively and Constitutionally speak up for ourselves...and by ripple effect or default, allow for such cultural destruction to commence in what used to be "our" [not UN's] America. I, for one, thank you Michael for a very thought provoking article.
My take is similar to the dude who posted this article. I spent so much time outside the U.S in the mil I found my own lil' paradise here in the EU. I have essentially been gone nearly 40 years, except for mandatory returns to every arm pit location the mil manages to find.
I experienced Fort Benning, Fort Riley, Fort Leonard Wood, Fort Monmouth, Fort Sam Houston, Fort Knox, Dahlonega, Fort Belvoir, Fort Dix,. Fort Indiantown Gap and a bunch of smaller places spread out over the country. The locals survived solely on the crumbs of employment these Forts provided. Every skunk and her sister swarmed into all the bars just off post on a payday weekend.
I saw the proliferating squalid trailer parks the married lower enlisted moved into along side the usual trailer park trash they originated from. I rubbed elbows with creme de la crud of the bottom 1/2 of the lowest common denominator the entire time I was in the service. These folks joined to escape the squalor they came from.
To make matters worse every nook + cranny in U.S is controlled by local freemasons. These hotheads are the reason the U.S is going down the crapper. They stifle job creation, they foment social discord, they set the so-called fix-is- in 'Politically Correct' agenda everywhere. They are like a cancer that can't be cured.
Since ya can't eat scenery, who cares how scenic a place is if yer starving? A minimum wage job is an insult. This allows a not so serious employer to hire + fire at will to keep wage costs down. In the EU this mentality don't cut it. Taxes here are high, but social spending means health care, decent schools, mass transit, low crime rates...and freemasons keep a very low profile here, even tho' they call the shots like they do behind the scenes in the U.S. The big difference being the multiple political party system that avoids what Gov George Wallace said about Dems + Repubs...there ain't a dime's worth of difference 'tween the 2 of them.
You forgot a con for Kansas: The Westboro Baptist Church featuring the Phreaky Phelps
Yes I do have to wonder why every know-it-all will proudly tell you that not all of New York is New York City and that it is foolish to think of the whole state as if it's times square....
Then the same yahoo will ignore the fact that California is more than 3 times larger than NY with 2 times the population. It should be as simple as putting 2+2 together, that there is a lot of California that isn't LA and Frisco. Also the mudslides in Cali should be a pro - they take out the stupid folks who build on the side of a hill.
yea so i live in mass and i totally agree with everything...but mass shoulda got a F..i used to live in nyc and i agree with their rating as well..idaho hmm....you never hear idaho on the news so i can see where this rating came from
America is a continent, not a country.
The USA is a country.
Another dumbass writer that thinks his country is the whole damn continent. Typical.
Having lived in California for 67 years with all the fruits and nuts, your F rating is far too generous.
AZ: should be B. I admit Phoenix is a D-. But there are some really great out of the way places with great weather and almost no overcrowding or traffic. SE AZ has gotten above average rainfall this year, so it seems like a good place for now. But don't everyone run over here and ruin it for us with overcrowding.
That would be North America.
The point/title of this article SHOULD have been
, "Where to be living when America falls apart." Factors to consider-farmland, crime rates, wind patterns for fall out and chemical weapons, oil deposits, gun laws and access, infrastructure condition, weather, strategic importance, military bases, law enforcement, terrain, attitudes towards government, religion, age of population, access to fresh water, livestock and game, and overall "defendability."
Native born Dale objects:
This is stupid. California is the best state, with hundreds of miles of empty beaches, alpine forests, the redwoods, and beautiful towns like Santa Cruz and San Luis Obispo, Saratoga and
Eureka.
This idiotic rating system puts ARizona's con as "warm weather" (yeah, if you like 117) which matches Calfornia's "warm weather" (the coast is usually in the 60s/70s). People who never get off the beaten track have no idea how diverse and wild California is. Stay out of Los Angeles.
Visit Big Sur, the Sierras, and Norcal. NOt mentioned in this stupid review is that California is full of educated, talented, creative people. Hollywood, Silicon Valley, the
world class public university system, pristine deserts, whatever you want...it's here. That is why 35 million people choose California: the market has spoken..this is the best state if you value diversity, intelligent people,and wild beaches, mountains, and deserts. Avoid Los Angeles. Avoid all huge cities. 99% of California is not big cities.
Did I mention people in California are open-minded and friendly?
Arizona, with the exception of Flagstaff and Sedona, is the most backward place in America.
The weather is not "great." 117 is not "nice weather." It is brutal. The pollution in Phoenix is gagging. The rednecks in their mobile homes are well-armed. Arizona earned Bill Maher's award as the stupidest state in the Union. It's the new racist utopia.
I exclude a few selected areas like Sedona, but 99% of the state sucks.
I visited New York City in February this year and I was SHOCKED by misery, trash, old homes, poor people and sick people who sleep at streets and in the subway.
Drugged young people turn around and scared me - even the police was aggressive!
So, to sum it up, you think it is Idaho?
Disnayland is a PRO? And I've been thinking that it's a sad reflection on the state we're in.
Life better in the EU? What planet are you living on? Political parties that don't all stand for the same thing? I think this must be a parallel universe you have described.
Oregon, huge drug problem? Uhh, I think that would depend on the person, and not the state. Central Oregon is pretty nice, and I'd be hard pressed to find a neighbor with huge drug problems anywhere.
I think it would depend on what state is closest to going Free State, New Hampshire think they are that state but if you look at the facts I think Maine is more inclined to call for nullification.
On the same line I think that free state programs are far over reaching what we need are more counties that are for returning to the Republic form of government, get enough people to move to a county elect a constitutional sheriff and everyone 18 and over are duly elected deputies or members of a posse sworn to defend the Constitution , The Free State Project might work but I think the County Capture Project is more sane and attainable
I had been living in coastal south Orange County, CA, for 20 years when retirement age came around in 2003. Beautiful place and climate but had become far too densely populated. I traveled around the country and considered moving back to my home state - north eastern Oklahoma, on one of the big lakes. I finally decided that the whole country was doomed and moved to the quiet countryside of southern France, a couple of hours from the Pyrenees. Eight+ years and no regrets. No crime. Surrounded by agriculture based on small family farms (no big Ag), fresh water, clean air and great neighbors. The "socialized" medical system is excellent.
The critic, above, who thinks the EU is a bad place because they don't have two identical political parties has obviously never traveled abroad. For all of its faults, things are far better here than in the states. The trick here, as anywhere, is to stay as far away as possible from large urban centers. Get out in the country with the real people.
USA in general is unlivable thanks to the military, nuclear power, pollution, gun carrying christians, cops, corporate lobbyists and sports addicts; in general a nation without civil/moral integrity.
This has to be a joke. An A for Idaho and an F for California? Have you been to either one? Please, ask your readers to send in their own pros and cons and put together a more realistic article.
Enjoyed reading this article. Many good laughs. Comments are even funnier. What a bunch of morons. Who cares.
north and south carolina dont really have a hurricane problem. the last bad one was hugo and that was like 1988. and why is illegal immigration a problem? its not. seems a little racist.
I agree with your rating for Montana although I would have given it an A or A-. I was born and raised here and my family has been here since the 1860's. There's a reason why. It's a GREAT place to live and so what if it's cold in the winter time? That doesn't bother me. We're used to it. We have a very low population level and lot's of beautiful wilderness. No one is scared of Yellowstone except people from CA and back east. We have no sales tax. If something costs 3 bucks you pay 3 bucks. No real crime to speak of, no drugs to speak of unless you consider pot a dangerous drug. We don't. I'd never live anywhere else. I've tried and always moved right back here to Montana. It isn't called Big Sky Country or The Treasure State for nothing!
What a waste of time. The author is either a recluse from Idaho or 7.
I am so glad you dissed northern New England states. In mine (I won't name it) one needs no concealed carry permits, though most people aren't so paranoid as to feel the need to be armed most of the time.
We don't need ignorant trash like you here. Stay in Idaho.
It's really interesting to see so many liberty minded individuals running for the hills (specifically Idaho and Montana) when two years ago we could'nt wait to get out of there! I grew up in North Idaho and know more about it than all the newbies moving there. You think winter will be a breeze? Try dealing with 8ft snow berms, extreme road conditions, and a major lack of vitamin D (you better stock pile some liquid drops). Why do you think Seattle, WA was rated the most depressed city in the U.S.? There is a major sense of selfishness, isolationism, and racism there. Most people keep to themselves and won't help each other out. The lack of good paying jobs is evident. My husband is a truck driver and could'nt keep a decent job unless he drove all the way to Spokane, WA or took long haul garbage. We tried for three years to sell our house, guess what? No buyers! Most people moving there are wealthy and are not interested in mediocre homes. So don't buy unless you plan on never leaving. The cost of land used to be reasonable, now it is unreal. Those who say it is a "safe" area should also know that Blackwater training facilities are located in Athol, ID and the police per capita is higher than most places in the country. There are certain things we miss, but the snotty people and the cold comes back to mind quickly as to why we left. If I believed there were a strong following of real liberty minded individuals there that treated their neighbor as themselves then we would possibly come back, but I just don't believe there is all the sudden in the last two years. We now live in FL and believe that at least in the warm weather we can grow food all season long.
I'd give Oregon an "F".
This is the most drug infested state in the Union.
Notice their cops took in less than $200,000 in drugdealer asset forfieture - year 2010.
Turns out the cop there think the Pacific is going to get hit with huge meteors, and thus tidal waves etc.
They are using their cut of the dope money to buy and stock bug outlocations.
You don't have to take my word, look up theOffical State of Oregon website
Seems like every state that lists cons have a high density of minorities--Richmond, con!--Detroit, con!--Atlanta, con!--. You never listed "rampant racism" in states like Louisiana or Mississippi.
..."this is stupid"... ..."we're friendly and open minded"... That was kinda funny readin that! %^)
fwiw, many of the states that have a so calledshort growing season really don't... For instance, CT can have 2 full corn and vegetable
growing seasons per year, is 2/3rds forest, as is Massachusetts, and is responsible for a large portion of maple syrup, eggs, chickens and turkey and venison! Ct also has more liberal (as in user friendly) gun laws! (no, really) plus, the northeast does have infrastructure for Delivery systems and high tech, (and admittedly, high taxes :( ) and is home to Colt Firearms and makes the Winchester firearms in North Haven, Ct.
Fwiw, it's having knowledge to survive and thrive, irregardless of the "deltoids" (read BraveNew World by Huxley for definition.)
Idaho - Awesome people live here
I feel like this article is a joke.. I mean, really?
What a piece of shit.
Coeur D'Alene ain't no city.
Any place queers aren't lynched is PC?
No awareness whatsoever of the radiation from Fuku.
This is the spewing of some paranoid couch tater who thinks Little House on the Prairie is the real world. Don't leave yer momma, punk.
I was born and raised in New Jersey. It has great beaches and forests but too damn many people and toxic waste dumps. Also the people are great and funny. I would give it a C-. I have lived in South Dakota. Cold as a mother hummer but great people and the outdoors are wonderful. No jobs though outside of agriculture. I have lived in Idaho for the past 31 years and a terrific place but I would not give it an A. Perhaps a B. The politicians are knuckle draggers. The outdoors are amazing.
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