Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Mainstream Doctors Say Supporting the 2nd Amendment is a Mental Disorder

Susanne Posel, Contributor
Activist Post

The medical industry in conjunction with Big Pharma wants to classify the right to keep and bear arms as a mental disorder in another power grab to circumvent and eventually destroy our Constitutional 2nd Amendment.

More and more doctors are forcing the idea that we need a national healthcare approach to the problem that the recent shootings provide. While tobacco and alcohol is regulated, why not include the right to bear arms?

Dr. Garen Wintemute, professor of emergency medicine at the Prevention Research Program speaking about the installing of public guardrails, said: “People used to spear themselves and we blamed the drivers for that.”

The staged shootings in Colorado and Wisconsin are being used by some scientists to declare gun violence be treated like any other mental disease – and perhaps by popping a pill, American citizens would forget to fight for their 2nd Amendment rights.

Dr. Stephen Hargarten of the Research Center at the Medical College of Wisconsin claims:
What I’m struggling with is: Is this the new social norm? This is what we’re going to have to live with if we have more personal access to firearms. We have a public health issue to discuss. Do we wait for the next outbreak or is there something we can do to prevent it.

Hargarten supports the limiting of access to all firearms in his advocacy with the Firearms Injury Center at the Medical College in Wisconsin which is funded by a US government grant to lobby taxpayers into believing that removing the 2nd Amendment will stop gun violence.

An estimated 260 to 300 million firearms are owned by American civilians which equals 1/3 of US households. While gun-related deaths are not rising, according to police records, the fear-mongering continues as a supposed trend with no justification.

Propaganda studies into gun ownership claim that alcohol abuse causes the likelihood of gun-related violence to rise, according to Wintemute. Banning assault weapons would control the amount of rounds a person could shoot, while the police officers would still be allowed to tout automatic pistols.

By restricting gun sales to include minor misdemeanors, as well as convicted felons, 40% of gun sales would be curbed. And with the classification of gun support as a mental disorder, more control could be placed on who ultimately can own a gun.

By devising tactics to reduce shootings, experts are trying to legitimize profiling so that they can identify who would be most likely to commit such a crime. Combining the psychiatric industry with pre-crime seems to be a relationship conceived by the global Elite.

Barrett says:
'Criminologists have studied it, and the consensus is that those laws simply did not have a statistically meaningful effect on crime rates.' He also feels that the mainstream media focus on the shootings themselves ignore the actual problem which is actually a 'social problem' which is subverted by 'the overall gun homicide rate.'
Daniel Webster, co-director of the anti-firearm John Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, asserts that "gun ownership—a precursor to gun violence—can spread 'much like an infectious disease'" and wants healthcare professionals to have influence over whether or not American citizens are legally allowed to possess firearms. Webster would like to see Obamacare have ultimate control of the classification of mental states with regard to purchasing and obtaining FBI clearance for a gun.

As Obama has done in the past, an executive order could be signed to force the issue through compliance with Obamacare restrictions on those deemed mentally defective and unable to own firearms. As with the mandate through EO on religious institutions to provide birth control, Obama’s executive power can again be abused to ensure his bidding is done – like any good Fascist Dictator would do.

The blurring of the line between Liberal Democrats and covert Socialists is confusing the perception of the 2nd Amendment in the social meme being purveyed by the mainstream media. By aligning Constitutional authority with the convoluted power grabs of the Obama administration, our Republic for the people and by the people is quickly descending into a control grid of which there is no escape.

The link between gun control and health care is a coercive way to equate fear brought on by recent shootings and removal of Constitutional rights that stand in the way of the US government’s tyrannical declarations.

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34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Of course, mainstream doctors mandated the wonderful universal vaccine program, maiming and killing our children:

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It appears as if we need the second amendment to ward off the criminal doctors!
Maybe that's why they're opposed, because of all the criminality they have heaped on the public for so long and they fear the reaction of the general public to the truth.

Anonymous said...

Last time I checked the words alcohol and tobacco weren't mentioned anywhere in the Bill of Rights, ah but lo and behold, "the right to bear arms is". Most doctors I ever went to see had obviously stayed in school too long. Seems like this group is no exception.

Penny Pincher Personal Finance said...

There is no line between liberal Democrats and Socialists, except that some of them don't realize it. The covert Socialists have usurped the power in the Democratic party and subverted it to their agenda. The rank and file are either really Socialists who don't know it because they grew up indoctrinated with Socialist views labeled as Democrat, or they're the ones who caused it to happen.

I'd say the old Democrats are now Republicans. You go back far enough and the Democrats were the conservative ones in the South.

Anonymous said...

In this article and elsewhere, I keep seeing references to increasing personal access to firearms. How is it increasing? Obviously, firearms are much more restricted now than in the past. You used to be able to purchase firearms through the mail and 12 year olds could walk down the street with their .22 rifle without having SWAT descend on them.

The only thing that may be increasing is more people are buying firearms after they realize that not only will the police not protect them but ultimately, are their enemy.

Roland.T.Flakfizer said...

Please provide proof that the shootings in Colorado and Wisconsin were staged. Proof.

Anonymous said...

oBAMA WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID THE RIGHT WAS HOLDING ON TO THEIR BIBLES AND GUNS. FACE IT, THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS WILL NEVER BE RELINQUISHED IN THE US, BUT THE FAR RIGHT WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE IT CAN HAPPEN, RESULTING IN MANY PEOPLE VOTING REPUBLICAN BASED ON THAT ISSUE ALONE, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT DISAGREE ON EVERY OTHER REPUBLICAN ISSUE. ITS JUST SCARE TACTICS

Anonymous said...

Considering the US Government is arming the narco terrorists as well as Al Qaeda (Libya, Syria) as well as being elected to "support and defend the Constitution" while at the same time telling us that if we do the same we are terrorists we REALLY need mental health screening for those in office and a method to remove them before they kill any more innocents. And considering the state of 'healthmarketing' in the USA our so called 'experts' should be paid third world wages for their delusional support of dictatorial edicts. Or perhaps forced onto the psychotropic drugs that turn people into killers. EVERY single doc associated with these killers should also have their licences pulled and be criminally/civilly prosecuted/sued.

Anonymous said...

Mainstream Doctors kill more people than guns.
Mainstream Doctorscall people with guns(the police) when there's trouble.

Anonymous said...

To save our liberty and ensure our security, disarm all employees of government and only allow the civilians to have firearms.

Anonymous said...

I'll give up my firearms when doctors stop being drug pushers for the pharmaceutical industry. Seems fair.

Anonymous said...

Horseshit! Gesundheit. Take two aspirin and call me in a few days.

The Reckoning said...

It got to this point when one group legally disarmed another i.e. Jim Crow. Look at the history of gun disarmament in American as it never had anything to do with reducing crime and etc. Now via legislation, every gun owner is slowly becoming subject to the new Jim Crow of old. I always ask, 'Are we there yet'? The people outnumber these self appointed people and their minions 100 to 1. Are we there yet?

iamlightagain said...

To the AMA:why don.t you stop pushing drugs that kill over ten times the population that guns do every year., could it be that the big pharmaceutical companies are making you prostitutes to mankind, all for money, you make me want to puke. What ever happened to the medical profession that cared for the old and the diseased?
If the people gave up their guns, would you also be slaves to the control-its of the world.

Anonymous said...

The police all have guns. Does this mean that they are the most mentally disordered of all?

Anonymous said...

True, doctors kill more people than guns and, in many cases, slowly. Big pharma is a moneymaking fraud as are the AMA, FDA, CDC and the phony charities as well. These monsters have been suppressing real cancer cures for nearly a century already.

Anonymous said...

Two words. Mind control.

Anonymous said...

Main stream patriots consider main stream doctors opinions of the 2nd amendment treason and punishable by hanging....or any other form of death we deem appropriate.

Paul Panza said...

The illusive search for security in the enforcement of the 2nd amendment, is compounded by the fact that most people believe it to be an "unalienable" right. Our problems stem from the need for a better weapon; like nuclear power either as an overt weapon or a covert weapon like nuclear electrical generation. Neither is appropriate technology for "peace living" people. For US as citizens we are stuck with a government that doesn't love US and we do have a right to defend ourselves from an obvious overt lethal intent such as uranium tipped projectiles, real active beam weapons and armed drones. Rifle and pistol owners do not stand a chance against the armory of the current alien/military/police force. The gun ban argument is another false flag paradigm from more than one perspective.

Anonymous said...

They are correct. The "need" to have bigger, faster shooting guns IS a mental health issue.
No one "needs" guns.
Unless you're going to go out and kill your dinner...like the Inuit, you don't need it.
Of course, living in a society of mental cases with guns, one should also have one for protection from the gunnuts.

Anonymous said...

You deride certain gun ownership studies as propaganda and in the same paragraph you propagandize with the subtle but significant misinformation that police (would continue to) carry "automatic pistols". Police carry SEMI-automatic pistols. There is a BIG difference between the two, operationally and in how strictly they are regulated. Credibility, gone.

Anonymous said...

medical negligence is the third cause of death in this country. Who are they to judge anyone with stats like that. The doctors are full of shit...

David McElroy said...

Let me get this straight... Believing you have a right to defend yourself with a gun is grounds for denying you one on mental health grounds, but if you don't, you are mentally healthy and eligible to buy one? Go to any college psych dept. and you'll find the faculty there are the weirdest and most unbalanced people on campus. Doctors kill far more people than guns every year. Maybe we should ban them?

Anonymous said...

Psychology faculty the most unbalanced? Yup! They are right up there with dramatic art and music! Only problem is, your music prof can't slap you into the nuthouse!

mothman777 said...

The only right you have to carry a gun is to carry one.

Anonymous said...

These are the same doctors that say, so far in a little more subtle way, that taking natural health supplements is a sign of mental disorder.

This is what they are told to say by their Masonic overlords and they're just trying to keep their jobs.

Needs salt.

Apparently 6 billion os too much to guard closely in their prison and they want to reduce us to a more manageable level of 500 million, globally.

Thats all we are talking about here and its about time people woke up and said no. Enough is enough.

Anonymous said...

"gun ownership—a precursor to gun violence—can spread 'much like an infectious disease'" and wants healthcare professionals to have influence over whether or not American citizens are legally allowed to possess firearms"

Terrific! We will have the same know-nothing shrinks who prescribe the psychotropic drugs that make many of these shooters do what they do to analyze us to see whether or not we're of sound mind to own a gun...

I don't care what any doctor says
I don't care what any judge says
I don't care what any politician says
I don't care if we end up in a global tyranny, I shall never relinquish the tools that keep me from becoming a slave or a victim to genocide, and that time appears to be getting closer each year.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait until they take the guns to watch all the belly arches do jack about it.

Anonymous said...

"Jack about it"=Ambushes on jack booted thugs who try and take our guns. Don't think we will do anything about it, think again. Thugs will be shot, survivors will be shot twice. And if you support those jack booted thugs watch your back.

apeman2502 said...

These pampered and sheltered doctors have never had a criminal shove a gun in their faces. And since the broke castled monarchies of Europe have always and still do rely on the use of personal weapons to rape, pillage, loot and burn to collect wealth and slaves, it is not prudent to allow attacks from these swine to continue unabated against America by disarming the American public.

Anonymous said...

"Nudging" and stealth 2nd Amendment destruction.

Watch for doctors to increasingly ask non-visit-related questions at your upcoming check-ups; Questions that in some states or cities can REQUIRE a doctor to report the answer and can result, without a hearing, in your guns being pro-forma SEIZED, and any permits/licenses you have REVOKED. You may never get them back or it will be prohibitively expensive to try to do so. If you're in the sports or gun business, or even just related accessories, you could be put instantly out of business or your job with the "wrong" answer.

Out of the blue, having nothing to do with my visit (stitch removal from lawn-care accident) The office assistant in the "routine" pre-doctor part of the visit...asked from a "routine" list...if I EVER felt "down" or "depressed". She stressed the "ever".

If you answer "yes", or "sometimes", or even refuse to answer, your response may by local law have to be reported to a group that WILL instantly take away your 2nd Amendment Right, using "clinical depression" as the reason. Such "administrative" actions often cannot be appealed.

Jerry Daniele said...

Aren't the doctors the same guys that accidentally kill 150,000 patients per year by an operating oops and drug prescription mistakes?! And 25,000 die by firearms?! Don't give me the BS the docs are trying to do a good thing and gun owners are not. Hah! They conveniently fail to mention that 6000 of the 25,000 firearms deaths are case actions of self defense!!!

I'll make the docs a deal: Disarm the federal government, the police, the world at large, grandma, and the bad guys and we armed citizens will turn in our firearms... Deal?

Any docs out there up for my proposal? I know, I have a firearm mental disorder and should be lobotomized!!!

In two separate orders Homeland Security has or is purchasing 1.1 billion rounds of ammunition! That doesn't sound too secure to me.

So HS is going be the enforcer of collecting the firearms from Americans. Well, 20,000,000 dead citizens later or putting it another way 8000 thousand years of firearm deaths at 25,000 deaths per year HS has cleaned up the gun crisis. What a frigging crock! Has this insane malignant narcisstic sociopathic government gone mad?! Yep me thinks so. Madness begets madness. Welcome to the brave new world.

Oh, I forgot to mention the million or so unborn children you doctors murder every year. The gun track record is looking pale compared to the loss of life from the medical INDUSTRY! MOLON LEBE...doc!

Oh, by the way, are you docs still practicing?!

Anonymous said...

Doctors kill a whole lot more people by accident than guns do each year.And what about cars?Cars have seatbelts because they are really dangerous things.More than guns but I think doctors kill more than both each year.People line up to see doctors.Who are the crazy ones? At a time in history when anyone can be a terrorist,its a bad time to take away everyones guns.What about machetes,axes and hammers?Those are dangerous things.Whats to stop all the crazyness then?Why be a sitting duck?Because thats crazy.

Anonymous said...

When the socialist order starts labeling gun owners mentally unstable in an attempt to further the gun control agenda then it will be time to start stripping the accusers of their right to live. You want peace? Prepare for war!!

Jerry Daniele said...

Doctors are right I am sick! I am sick and tired of these lying SOBs lining up with the government's fascist agendas for a paycheck. They will do or say anything to further their influence and income. That's sick!!!!!!!!!!!

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