Wednesday, March 9, 2011

The Final Steps in Achieving Global Totalitarianism

Richard William Posner

"The ultimate tyranny in a society is not control by martial law. It is control by the psychological manipulation of consciousness, through which reality is defined so that those who exist within it do not even realize that they are in prison. They do not even realize that there is something outside of where they exist."  -- Barbara Marciniak, Content of Bringers of the Dawn, pg. 87, Chapter Eight.

For several years now, I've been watching the evolution of the virtual community. At first I had rather naïve, high hopes for its possibilities. I imagined it might spawn a viable counterculture that could become a global phenomenon bringing the People of Earth together in a way never possible before.

I have studied innumerable forums, social networks, blogs and news and information sites. On virtually every venue that allows reader comment or contribution I have found only one common factor: Conflict

My early optimism has been replaced by the realisation that, with a few notable exceptions, the much vaunted World Wide Web is becoming just another weapon in the arsenal of oppression.

If you can't beat 'em, absorb 'em.

"To take advantage of sentiments, not wasting one's energies in futile efforts to destroy them". -- Italian economist Vilfredo Pareto.

In Mesoamerica, the ancient Inca allowed the tribes they conquered to keep their own beliefs provided they accepted the Inca social system and paid homage to the Inca and their gods. In exchange for compliance they received from the Inca the advantages of their advanced civilisation. In some instances this allowed conquest with minimal bloodshed. When shown the vast numbers of warriors they would face and offered assimilation rather than slaughter, some tribes simply surrendered without resistance.

As has been done in america throughout the modern age, with every trend or counterculture that posed any threat to the dominance of the capitalist aristocracy, the computer and the Internet have been commodified. Like the beatniks and the hippies, like jazz, big band and rock n' roll, like any movement or trend that suggested change, the virtual subculture of the Internet is being rendered impotent through commodification.

The potential threat will be assimilated, woven into the fabric of consumer delirium, and thereby rendered impotent. It will become just another can of beans on the shelf at Wal-Mart. Any scenario in which it might be used as a tool for the unification, advancement and welfare of humanity will exist only in the imagination of the hopelessly optimistic. 

Like all things commercial, it ultimately serves only one purpose: to further empower and enrich those who own it. Much like the delusional democracy and freedom of speech in America, as long as an illusion of net neutrality, openness and freedom can be foisted upon the addled public, the Internet will continue to provide yet another means to distract, deceive, divide and exploit the masses. It is only a matter of when, not if, the net becomes as fair and balanced as Fox News, another branch of the ministry of propaganda, a tool used solely for the dual purposes of indoctrination and the generation of profit.

INDOCTRINATION & ADVERTISING, The two headed, mind-eating monster.

Long before the Internet became an indispensable part of our lives, way back in my junior high school years (I believe it's referred to as middle school these days) I began studying the modern process of indoctrination that has been used, with great success, by those who seek total dominion over Earth and all its resources.

I wondered about the real purpose of print advertising and radio ads. I sought the true reason for the pledge of allegiance and prayer before class every day. With the advent of television, I tried to understand the actual motive for the commercials, which have, insidiously, increased geometrically in quantity in a very few decades while their deceptive, mesmeric, mind-programming capabilities have grown almost overwhelmingly effective. 

This indoctrination has spread like an audiovisual cancer through America and much of the ostensibly civilized world. The training begins at birth and has become all-pervasive throughout our lives, from cradle to grave. From print to radio to television, from kindergarten to grade-school to high school to college, in church at work and at play, everywhere we go, in nearly every waking moment, we are conditioned, manipulated and kept primed for exploitation. When our existence is no longer profitable, we become wards of a State that is being reconfigured to render it incapable of providing even the most meager security net for those that have been used up and cast aside by the profit machine.

This is not the society the founders had in mind when they risked all in their revolution. This is, in point of fact, much more like the very thing they fought to be free of.

You can put a cat in the oven. That doesn't make it a biscuit.

``We the People
of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defense, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, AND SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.''

No matter how I twist or distort those words and concepts, I can make them fit neither the place nor time in which I find myself today.

Albert Einstein said of Mahatma Gandhi:
"I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men in our time. We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil.” (emphasis added)

The literal ownership of every square inch of Earth and all its resources by a small cabal of pathologically demented individuals is the evil that now confronts us. Once that condition exists, and it isn't too far off, those whose private property Earth has become will be able to withhold, by main force, any of those resources and make them available only to those who can afford to buy them. Buy or Die.

Should we cross that Rubicon, it will be all but impossible to reverse our course and restore civil society even to this one nation let alone the world.  We have come to that moment in human history where we must make a stand or accept the status of chattel in a totalitarian New World Order.

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -- David Rockefeller (founder of the Trilateral Commission), in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission in June, 1991

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." -- David Rockefeller

"The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth."
-- H. L. Mencken

Denial is a dangerous state to live in.

Militarism, war and totalitarian supremacy dominate the dark, psychopathic spirit of our rulers. Mars is a prominent god in the capitalist pantheon where Mammon sits upon the highest throne. Death is a great source of profit to them. Nothing is to be gained by clinging to the delusion of a world in which, somehow, great leaders, with our best interests at heart, are bestowed upon us.

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because most people don't want to admit they don't have the courage to do anything about it. Most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all"
-- Michael Rivero

We will protect your privacy...guaranteed!

Year after year, in meetings of the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, at G8 and G20 Summits, behind closed doors at the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and The Bank for International Settlements, small groups of individuals, whose names are unknown to most of us, gather to determine our fate and that of the human race. Their decisions have nothing whatsoever to do with the general welfare of humanity, the preservation of our Life support system or securing the blessings of liberty to anyone other than themselves. The only agenda being pursued is that which will ensure their continued ascendency to a position of complete ownership and control of Earth, all its resources and total dominance of its entire population.

"Some 60 families—names like Rockefeller, Morgan, Dodge, Mellon, Pratt, Harkness, Whitney, Duke, Harriman, Carnegie, Vanderbilt, DuPont, Guggenheim, Astor, Lehman, Warburg, Taft, Huntington, Baruch and Rosenwald— formed a close network of plutocratic wealth that manipulated, bribed, and bullied its way to control the destiny of the United States. 

They operated in absolute secrecy, lest the general public understand how the banks’ money manipulated political decisions behind the scenes, including decisions to go to war or to keep the peace."
-- F. William Engdahl, Gods of Money

This process can be seen throughout history and we are watching now as it continues before our eyes every day. It is as plain and obvious as the rising and setting of the sun. Yet, year after year, despite the clear and undisputed documentation of these groups and their activities, the few who strive to bring this condition to light are scorned and branded as conspiracy nuts. Yet year after year, Life for most people deteriorates, becomes harder, less fulfilling, more stressful while the false wealth of money and the real wealth of Earth are continually redistributed upward and concentrated in ever fewer hands. In recent years this process has accelerated exponentially and, as we bicker amongst ourselves -- as we are trained to do -- the establishment of the first truly global plutocratic oligarchy nears completion.

"The de facto censorship which leaves so many Americans functionally illiterate about the history of U.S. foreign affairs may be all the more effective because it is not, so much official, heavy-handed or conspiratorial, as it is woven artlessly into the fabric of education and media. No conspiracy is needed. The editors of Reader's Digest and U.S. News and World Report do not need to meet covertly with the representative from NBC in an FBI safe-house to plan next month's stories and programs; for the simple truth is that these individuals would not have reached the positions they occupy if they themselves had not all been guided through the same tunnel of camouflaged history and emerged with the same selective memory and conventional wisdom." -- Killing Hope by William Blum

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. " -- David Rockefeller (founder of the Trilateral Commission), in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991

Global totalitarianism is at hand and we will quarrel, argue and clash over fabricated wedge issues as it overtakes us. Unless we break the age-old stranglehold of the money masters now, once and for all, the consequences will be nothing less than apocalyptic.

It is only by the exercise of free will and the joining of the People in a common cause that hope for a free world and humanity may be restored.

When faced with a truth too horrific to accept, many will surrender all volition to some greater power, expecting to be saved by divine intervention. This is, in my opinion, the most total and unforgivable display of apathy possible. There is no god to save you from your own careless hand.   Complacency and denial lead only to enslavement.  Clinging to petty, superficial, fabricated differences enables the true enemy to easily divide and conquer.   It is worse than useless to pretend that all will return to normal if only we will keep on with business as usual. "Normal" is the problem, not the solution. All the wrong that has been sown for centuries is now ripened and a harvest of death is at hand.

What's the point?

So, if things are so completely hopeless, why have I taken the time to put these words before your eyes?

Because I want you to prove me wrong. I want the People to take back their power and use it for the benefit of all humanity. I want us all to stop participating in our own destruction.

So now we must choose between Life or death, people or profit, darkness or light. 

If we choose not to decide, the enemy has already chosen for us. 

If we do not stand up now, I don't think we'll get another chance for a very long time, if ever.

"The man who would choose security over freedom deserves neither." --Thomas Jefferson

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

There is no way to Peace. Peace is the Way.
-- Richard

Richard William Posner is a writer, computer graphics and image editor, and is skilled at electronic music applications.  The full range of his political and ideological views, and the background for those, can be found on his own site.  Richard can be contacted directly at      


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Anonymous said...

We've got to convince the forces to understand this and get the military on our side.

Tony said...

Interesting article. I'd like to ask, though: When are the athiests and the believers going to stop bickering and come together? If you athiests are so superior in intellect, surely you can calmly convince people of their need to objectively look at facts. If you believers think you're so great and nonbelievers are "damned," why not reach out in a nonjudgmental and loving manner. God IS love, no matter what name is applied or who denies the divine.

ksdrover said...

Another excellent post that echoes what I have come to believe. It would be difficult to find a starting point because what has been written couldn't have be done more extensively or eloquently than the author.

I agree with the absorbtion of dissent. Just as you cited the case of the Incas, the Hittite culture did precisely the same thing. If you believe in King David and his kingdom he also did the same thing with the Amalakites "god" told him to leave alone, yet he conquered and assimilated. The Rothschilds have profitted greatly by playing both sides of ALL conflicts.

As for our 'educational system' there is little that is has to do with education, and reading even Jared Diamond's book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" he admits that he was indoctrinated in his youth as to the extent of the indigenous Indian population of America prior to European conquest for the purpose of minimizing the slaughter that had taken place.

I'll include a comment I made on a story on Yahoo's Tech Ticker that talked about selling off America to pay off "our" debt. I posted it on two consecutive days and they were both summarily taken down within minutes. Coming to the conclusion that there was nothing inappropriate that deserved censorship I pondered WHO would be responsible for such an act of censorship. Who shrinks at the appearance of light? Who gains by the silening of truth? As always, the government or the power structure.

servehim65 23 seconds ago
I was just talking to my wife last night on a similar subject. With the debt of American government to the top 10 foreign nations being equal to the gross GDP of 25 of the 50 states the good ol' "United" States might not be so "united" much longer.

Add to that the FACT that government owns 25% of the land, the central bank of America AKA the Federal Reserve "owns" more 'American debt' than China and prints FIAT CURRENCY to further exacerbate the DETERIORATING financial situation, America's public doesn't give a damm about REALITY, and it's a pretty sad destination.

"Allowing" the congress to "decide" whether to LIQUIDATE America is just like asking the same government if we need to raise the national debt. They'll get their "policy" from the privately owned FOREIGN BANK that will counsel them that it would be disasterous NOT to raise the debt limit just like Bernanke said last week.

People are you REALLY that blind? Here we are with 20 different versions of CSI and everyone's a detective yet NO ONE can see the OBVIOUS???? JEEEEEZZZZUS KEERIIIST

This is a pawn shop society that has been so MISeducated that they don't even know what money IS. Ms. Liberty has been reduced to a whor e selling herself, hoping that one day she will have enough to get out of the business.

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Every day that passes is a day LOST forever convincing yourself the chains are really not that bad.

What's the point? I wonder myself. I read once that in an insane world the sane man also loses his sanity. At every step there are people that actively work towards the silencing of reason in our times, and there is the great masses that are perfectly fine with the ever tightening noose that encircles us all. Knowledge is an impediment. Truth is a hindrance. Reality is too uncomfortable. I find myself wondering if people will ever know what LIFE really is before they're dead.

Richard William Posner said...

@ Tony

Your comment is really a bit off topic. Who said anything about atheists being superior or believers being "so great"?

You're responding to a single sentence that reflects only my personal opinion as can be said of the entire essay.

I have no feud with any person of "faith" as long as they do not condemn me for not sharing it. I am equally fearful of those who believe they are totally absolved of any responsibility for the harm they do, or fail to prevent, by virtue of their "belief" that everything is the "will" of god.

Love for our brothers and sisters should be unconditional and not dependant upon their "belief", or lack thereof, in a supernatural being.

"Religion" is a wedge issue. It has been used to cause conflict and discord by the true enemy of humanity for millennia.

Let people believe as they will. Just don't allow those beliefs become an obstacle to the unification of the human family. Faith is a personal matter, not a mandate to be forced, in any one form, upon the entire world by anyone. Such efforts are merely an attempt at another form of totalitarianism.

Richard William Posner said...

@ ksdrover

Thanks for the comments. Just one thing I'd like to offer for your consideration;
"... Fiat money is not the problem – the private issue of fiat money is the problem, which is like a private tax on all society."
Stephen Zarlenga, Director, The American Monetary Institute
You might want to visit this site;

Anonymous said...

Very good article, strong, clear and to the point. Another view of this normalization he writes of is with respect to the Affirmative Culture, A culture which affirms what is the family the church, the state and everything that is around us from the moment of birth to death. A great article to re-affirm who we are outside this system of decay and death.

ksdrover said...

Thank you Mr. Posner. With all due respect I am aware that "privately issued" fiat currency is the problem and my comment did not reflect that. After all Lincoln's 'greenback' was a perfect example of correctly issued "fiat currency" that actually helped America.

If you are familiar with Jared Diamond's work, from the book I cited above, the chapter, From Egalitarianism to Kleptocracy his chart reveals that 'band' or 'tribal' based communities are the only defense that can effectively repulse the corruption that occurs in larger, looser forms of governance. This is my conclusion from my studies of our culture and society: In order to move forward we must return to the roots that made us successful in managing ourselves without the malignancy of our current situation.

If you have come to another conclusion I would be open to hearing what you have to say on the subject. God knows we need some intelligent debate as to the choices we have before us.

I have been 'homeschooling' our 5 children for the past 5 years because I feel REAL education is too valuable to leave to a system that has proven they have no interest in advancing mankind. What we have spoken of is the type of material my children are exposed to on a daily basis. Nothing less is going to prepare them for what others have prepared for them.

Having said that I am not a fundamentalist 'christian'. I have had that 'bubble' popped. I consider myself beyond the nametagging that people have been conditioned to accept in ored to fit into our society. I am perfectly fine with viewing myself simply as a human being looking for answer to LIFE and truth.

Richard William Posner said...

ksdrover, I'm pleased to make your acquaintance.

I'm downloading a pdf version of Guns, Germs, and Steel as I type.

I meant no disrespect in directing you to the AMI website. I thought you might find it informative.

I don't know if it will really be necessary for us to resort to the isolationism of tribal societies in order to rid ourselves of the parasitic supremacists seeking to enslave us all. I actually think it's possible to have a very large, even global, society without the self-destructive hierarchical systems that have been failing us for so long.

Bands and tribes are not a bad idea, as long as they can all work together toward the common goal of uniting the human family. Such social structures usually promote separatism, which leads to nation building and the "patriotism"/"nationalism" that comes with it. And so we go back and do it all over again.

Much respect and admiration for your commitment to your children. Absent some miraculous change in the course we're on, they will need every advantage you can give them simply to survive.

Truthseeker21 said...

Greetings Mr. Posner,

I just read your very perceptive essay on the SOTT website. You stated right at the start: "On virtually every venue that allows reader comment or contribution I have found only one common factor: Conflict." Then I read thru the comments; and sure enough, they prove your very point, apparently unwittingly, and demonstrating the narcissism of these Times, where every individual thinks he has it all figured out... oblivious to the cultural indoctrination that has shaped our perceptions from birth.
You got it right; and, unfortunately, this sorry play has to run its logical course, despite the best efforts of the 'alarm-sounders' like you and a few others.

Richard William Posner said...

Thanks Truthseeker21

It's nice to know that my words are being picked up and spread around. It's emotionally cathartic if nothing else.

I regret to say I feel compelled to agree with your closing observation.

It would seem the violent cycle of Empire and bloody revolution must be repeated yet again. There is however one difference now; for the first time in history, it may actually go global.

ksdrover said...

Mr. Posner,

None taken sir. And yes I do appreciate the link. Information is always accepted. I hope you enjoy, Guns, Germs, and Steel. He also has a book called, "Collapse", which examines the causes of historical cultural collapse and reflects on how current situations could lead to the collapse of our world.

It's not 'isolationism' I am advocating. I'm drawing on the basis of North American Indians and their success in governing themselves without the need for 'policing' the people or many of the 'laws' and structure that western civilization brought with it. Many early civilizations had good points that made aspects of their culture superior to the 'intellectually' developed cultures.

I agree with working together as a human family. That is the goal if we have any chance at survival as a species. I also agree that 'patriotism/nationalism' is cancerous. We have got to get away from associating superiority with adopting labels. There are quite a few 'philosophical' writers that have expressed this subject rather well. Gustave Le Bon's, "The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind", Aldous Huxley's works, Martin Heidegger's, "Being and Time", and Immanuel Kant to name a few. But having said that I believe Don Henley summed it up perfectly, "All the knowledge in the world is of no use to fools." Humor intended.

I have been as you have mentioned. I more or less observe anymore. It seems pointless to me to comment much because you just encounter negativity and people that want to argue moot points. I have enjoyed our conversation and am glad that you have responded. I thank you and will keep an eye out for your future writings.

Peace and best wishes

karlmetzger2010 said...

Jesus said to not worry about the things that must occur before the sun is darkened. Just like a mothers' travail increases until relief after the baby is expelled, so to the world will suffer increasing natural disaster, war and pestilence.

So, enjoy the ride...stay faithful. DON'T TAKE THE MARK! It's better to be killed for Christs' sake than to live and lose one's soul.

Somebody really should whack that sob Svanberg of BP for what he did to the Gulf. Just saying

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Give the internet some time. The elite understand that it takes 20-30 years for a new generation of indoctrinated morals and values to come to fruition. High speed internet has hardly been accessible to the majority for 10 years.

The mass of news stories, commentaries, forums, videos, and reading material can be like white noise. It is hard to sort through the truth and lies, what is important and what is not. It will take time for people to realize and understand the patterns.

Richard William Posner said...

@ Anonymous (all caps)

I have no idea what you're talking about but feel free to rant. It's your time.

Richard William Posner said...

@ Anonymous, re give the internet some time.

I fear that time will only see the elite gain total control of the web as they have of virtually all other media.

I would certainly like to be wrong.

PAGAU said...

@ Anonymous (all caps)
The grey green background isn't so bad. Perhaps your monitor needs a little adjusting but if it causes you a problem, you don't really have to use it. It is optional. Most browsers allow you to use your own background or no background. I have my Opera browser configured so that With two clicks of a mouse, I can toggle on a high-contrast mode that reads like a book (black on white) on this site.

PAGAU said...

@Richard William Posner
Much of what you write I agree with but this comment, I do not:
"... Fiat money is not the problem – the private issue of fiat money is the problem, which is like a private tax on all society."
fiat money is not so much a tax as outright theft. I makes no difference who the thief is (bankers or governments) it is still theft. Wealth rightfully belongs to those who produce it--not to those who would cheat them out of it by the deceit of paper money.

Richard William Posner said...


Thank you for your feedback.

Please define wealth.

While I agree completely with your assertion that wealth belongs to those who produce it, I'm not sure what you think of as wealth.

In my humble opinion, wealth is produced by labor, not capital. Money is merely a legal contract that allows individuals to exchange real wealth using a system other than barter.

As long as control of the money system is never granted to the private sector and commodified for profit, a stable economy can be achieved and real commerce can flourish.

“The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity.”
Abraham Lincoln

That proposal cost Lincoln his Life.

"Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nations laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation. Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile."
William Lyon Mackenzie King

Money is NOT wealth. It is NOT a commodity. It has NO intrinsic value.

"So both Aristotle and Plato noted the paramount principle - that the nature of money is a fiat of the law, an invention or creation of mankind. This principle, part of a lost science of money, must now be relearned in the 3rd Millennium in order to achieve the monetary reforms needed to move back from the brink of nuclear disaster, to move away from a future dominated by fraud and ugliness, toward a world of justice and beauty."
Stephen Zarlenga, "The Lost Science of Money"

I think you would find the above book of great interest. You might also appreciate these sites;

Only when money is commodified, as it has been by the "financial industry" (a non sequitur if ever there was one), is there a robbery in progress.

The money in use today has been commodified and is issued as debt, which allows the issuer, a privately owned, for-profit banking cartel, to take unearned income from circulation while producing no real wealth whatsoever.

That, indeed, is outright theft.

Thanks again for reading and offering your thoughts.

PAGAU said...

I agree with your definition of wealth: "wealth is produced by labor, not capital"
You agree with my "assertion that wealth belongs to those who produce it"
OK, great!
I also agree with your statement: The money in use today has been commodified and is issued as debt, which allows the issuer, a privately owned, for-profit banking cartel, to take unearned income from circulation while producing no real wealth whatsoever." Although I am not quite sure what to do with your term "commodified," it is clear from this statement you understand the mechanism of the theft--that by controlling the issuance of money, a "privately owned, for-profit banking cartel" is able to steal wealth from those who produce it.
Here again, we agree. We have a common understanding of wealth and how it is stolen through the power to issue money. But if we can call it theft when a central bank has the power to issue money, can we not also call it theft when the government has that power? Of course we can. The fact that the central bank charges interest on this ill-gotten gain does not diminish this theft in any way. The interest factor adds another layer of outrage upon the outrage--theft upon theft. The interest factor is secondary to the primary evil.

If we grant the government the power to steal in this way it is paramount to a license to steal--steal they will and you will hear that giant sucking sound as the wealth of an entire nation disappears into a black hole.

We have been warned.
Roger Sherman
A Caveat Against Injustice

We should not replace the scourge of a central bank with yet another scourge. We should return to our roots and to the monetary principles of our nation's founders. If this is done then the people (those who produce wealth) will control the issuance of money instead of the parasites (those who consume wealth). People will be free to trade anything they want, use anything they want as money but demand payment only in gold or silver. Silver (the poor man's gold) will be the standard for the dollar. The government will be limited in size and scope. Freedom will then be able to thrive.

Is this perhaps where we disagree? Do you believe it would be a good thing for the government to have the means to unlimited spending?
Not to be rude, but have you considered this question?


Justin LeBlanc (Rocklin, CA) said...

Just passing through...

I'm sure you've considered that the love of money is at the root of all kinds of evil.

I'm sure you also recognize that peace requires love, and love requires forgiveness for those who turn away from their evildoing.

I'm sure you have also considered that the whole human race comes from the same stock, and so therefore we must love our neighbor as ourself, and treat him as we would have him treat us.

So, perhaps you have considered, then, that the real enemies would be those who put on a mask and pretend they are doing so, but really they will not, even when confronted with their hypocrisy?

Have you considered that every one of us falls short of this standard by our very nature, which is full of selfishness?

So how shall my evil nature be defeated? There is only one hope: The same one who created the universe and rose from the grave to prove His power over life and death, also says that if we believe in His death, our evil nature will also die, and if we believe in His resurrection, we receive a new nature which is trained up by His Spirit, and will receive a new body when the new universe comes.

Because the new universe is coming, at this time we are called to stop practicing evil, appeal to others to be reconciled to the Creator, and to manage what we have well in preparation for our future home. Thus, while bad management and evil intents in this age will be punished, yet what is done in ignorance will be forgiven...

Richard William Posner said...

@ PAGAU. Part 1

Let me start by saying I'm not on a mission to "convert" you or anyone else to my "side". I try my best to be a pragmatic analyst of information, thereby reaching a conclusion, the factual status of which is contingent upon the absence of any new information that may invalidate it in whole or part. I'm happy we have several points upon which we can agree. Upon those we do not, I respect your right to your opinion hope we can agree to disagree.

In answer to your closing question; yes. I have considered the question of monetary systems very deeply, and at great length.

Regardless of what a dictionary may tell me, I consider a valuable "commodity" to be a resource that is essential for or has properties that make it useful to survival. For instance; arable land or crops from them, potable water or land with access to it, etc. In other words, real wealth. In our society, with its economy based on consumer delirium and debt, a commodity is anything a seller can convince a sucker to buy; including lots of junk with no real value whatsoever.

The money as debt we are forced to use is a falsely valued commodity, as are gold and silver. They are only "precious" because people have been indoctrinated to believe it is so. Nothing could be further from the truth. If these things were truly vital to the survival of humanity, we would not waste them as mere currency or hoard them and speculate against the instability of their manipulated "value".

Gold and silver, aside from not having much practical use, have had their "value" greatly exaggerated by centuries of disinformation. In that respect they are no different from our commodified currency. The greatest differences are matters of convenience. "Precious metals are cumbersome and heavy and availability is limited by their source. They could be used by a society as currency if they were strictly legal tender and not commodified. Such currencies have been used very successfully in the past.

"The growth of Rome from a small village in the eight century BC, to creator and ruler of the world order, resulted in large part from her bronze money. In the east, gold and silver were being coined as money, but Rome chose to base her money on bronze-a mixture of mainly copper, some tin and a bit of lead. And not just commodity bronze, but monetized pieces called the Nummi or Nomisma".
The Lost Science of Money, p 39

"The numerary system lasted for nearly two centuries, during which all that was admirable of Roman civilization saw its origin, its growth and its maturity. When the system fell, Rome lost its liberties."
Alexander Del Mar, A History of Money in Ancient Countries, p 241

The preponderance of evidence brings me to the conclusion that so-called "precious" metals are not viable money as long as they retain their commodity status. Their value fluctuates according to their availability or scarcity which can be falsely manipulated by speculators.

"Aside from going counter to the true nature of money as an abstract legal power, there is a very practical matter that supporters of Gold money can't address: There is never enough supply of gold sufficient for such a money system. The Gold supply has not kept pace with the growth of population and commerce. This periodically increased the real value of gold.
Money systems usually solved this problem by cheating – pretending to be operating a gold based system but really mixing private bank paper into the money supply, pretending it was convertible; leveraging the amount of gold in the system through fractional reserves of one type or another. Because this bestowed great power and unearned wealth onto bankers, there has never been a shortage of apologists for such mixed systems - we call them 'economists!'"
Stephen Zarlenga, Director, The American Monetary Institute

End Part 1

Richard William Posner said...

@ PAGAU Part 2

The Works of Benjamin Franklin 1781

"Silver may be carried out of the country that produces it, and thereby prevent too great fall of its value in that country. But, when by this means it grows more plentiful in all other countries, nothing prevents its sinking in value. Thus within three hundred years since the discovery of gold in America, and the vast quantities of gold and silver imported from thence and spread over Europe and the rest of the world, those metals have sunk in value four fifths—that is, five ounces of silver will not purchase more labor now than an ounce would have done before that discovery."

In response to the second question in your closing paragraph; I don't think government should have the freedom to print unlimited money. In the same chapter as the quote directly above, Franklin explains how their paper money was severely devalued when too much was introduced into circulation during the revolution.

Yes, the People should control the money. In a nation as large and populous as America, there must be a government of commensurate size. That makes the phrase "of the People" very significant. No matter what monetary system a society adopts, it will be corrupted by profit seekers unless the government is comprised of individuals who are, in every sense, of the People.

"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection, and the base of a moral existence."
Ayn Rand

End Part 2

Richard William Posner said...

@ PAGAU Part 3

Even a psycho like Rand makes sense occasionally.

Given government that functions correctly; honestly, acting in the interest of the People, a national legal tender, debt-free fiat money, is the best way to go until humanity is ready for an economy without money of any kind. But that's a topic for another discussion.

Having read the document for which you provided the link, I would like to address it next.

“No State shall ... make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts”

The operative word here is "State". What we deal with today is the monetary system of a sovereign nation with a single, uniform currency.

I thought it worthy of note that Roger Sherman opposed the Bill of Rights and supported Alexander Hamilton's financial program in the establishment of a national, privatised central bank not unlike the ones we are suffering from today.

Mr. Sherman's view is based upon his preconceptions and prejudice in favour of gold and silver and observations of the growing pains of a loosely affiliated group of colonies/states that were severally printing their own "money". It was an experiment in creating a monetary system in response to hindrances and restrictions caused by the Bank of England, which were actually the primary cause of the revolution.

What Mr. Sherman observed is not unlike international nation states, each with a different currency, various "exchange rates" and all the encumbrances resulting from monetary systems that are neither uniform nor stable. He actually conflates "bills of credit" from different states with "foreign" currency.

Another major source of the "inflation" that occurred before the war was caused by the Bank of England, which hired counterfeiters to flood the colonies with fake scrip.

"At the start of the Revolution, the American colonial money supply stood at $12 million. By the end of the war, it was nearly $500 million. This was partly a result of massive British counterfeiting.
Earlier, colonial scrip had worked because just enough was issued to facilitate trade, and counterfeiting was minimal. Today, those who support a gold-backed currency point to this period during the Revolution to demonstrate the evils of a fiat currency. But remember, the same currency had worked so well 20 years earlier during times of peace that the Bank of England had Parliament outlaw it, and during the war the British deliberately sought to undermine it by counterfeiting it in England and shipping it ‘by the bale’ to the colonies."

Mr. Sherman also seems to be labouring under the delusion that silver and gold are somehow endowed with "both intrinsic and unchanging value" and by extension that money based upon them will never be "fluctuating"; assumptions which are patently false.

The same constitution that bars the states from making any "Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts" also mandates that the authority to create money is a sovereign power vested in the Congress under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution.

“If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.”
Andrew Jackson, the only president to ever pay off the national debt.

In response to the first question of your closing paragraph; yes, this is perhaps where we disagree; upon the nature of money. I feel reasonably confident that we can agree to disagree without rancor.

I would sincerely recommend that you take a look at these. It's not a perfect solution by any means but it's the best way to go to get out of the current mess and on the road toward a moneyless future.

An article of interest;


Richard William Posner said...

@ Justin LeBlanc

I sincerely respect your beliefs and your right to hold them and feel no animosity toward you for them. Most importantly, I hope you can say the same about the fact that I do not share them.

PAGAU said...

@Richard William Posner (part 1)
"Let me start by saying I'm not on a mission to "convert" you or anyone else to my "side"."

PAGAU says:
Let me start by saying I'm not a "goldbug" -- at least not in the context of two opposing camps "sovereign money" and "gold standard". I understand there are schisms in both camps. I have given both camps my attention at various times over the years. I honestly regarded their differences trivial. In more recent years however, the increase in polarization over these trivial differences has forced me to think these things through. I have thought it through and I have come to the conclusion that I am not squarely in either camp and that the extremes of both camps are about equal in their error. To me, it is a false paradigm--like democrat vs republican.

The two camps used to have so much in common. They still do if you think about it. They had a common enemy--namely the central bank. Years ago it was not unusual to see a coin dealer with a copy of "Money Masters" on hand. They were on the same team. Now it seems there is a Hegelian Dialectic developing, no?

From where I stand the differences come down to this one question: Which is the more benevolent of dictators? Public or private? The state or the banks? I am of the opinion neither can be trusted. Under fascisim they are one and the same anyway. They both work against the people.

Those who advocate returning to a gold standard are in error. I agree with many of the critisims that the "sovereign money" camp level against them.

Those who advocate fiat "sovereign money" are in error. I agree with many of the critisims that the "gold standard" camp level against them.

Both extremes are easily refuted by the most simple arguments but I rarely hear these simple arguments. I hear complex theories. It is not that hard.

The system established at the founding of this nation was not "sovereign money". Nor was it a "gold standard". It was a silver standard. The value of the dollar was tied to silver, not gold. The term "dollar" actually is a unit of measure for silver. But silver was not the point of focus so much as the standard. Silver became the standard because that is what people of the day naturally choose absent any coersion (legal tender laws) when they seek a standard. It was not the choice of banks or governments, it was the choice of the people. The governments role was limited to operating a mint and establishing a standard. No government or bank had the power to create or destroy money. That power rested with the people. This arrangement protected the people and their money from the abuses of both governments and banks. Both governments and banks are prone to abuse money. This was well understood at the time.

PAGAU said...

@Richard William Posner (part 2)
"Mr. Sherman also seems to be labouring under the delusion that silver and gold are somehow endowed with "both intrinsic and unchanging value" and by extension that money based upon them will never be "fluctuating"; assumptions which are patently false."

PAGAU says:
I don't see how you can say this is patently false. Value is relative. Of course they don't have absolute intrinsic and unchanging value. But relatve to fiat, it is not far from absolute while fiat is completely arbitrary. The wildly fluctuating values of precious metals today come as a result of using an arbitrary standard--namely fiat. There is a difference between a standard of value and a standard of measure. The government's constitutional role in regulating the value of money basically consists of establishing standards of weights and measures for the metal content in coinage. The value is in the metal as percieved by the individual.

"The same constitution that bars the states from making any "Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts" also mandates that the authority to create money is a sovereign power vested in the Congress under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution."

PAGAU says:
I have read Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. It grants Congress the power to "coin money and regulate the value thereof." To coin money is not the same as create money. This requires an understanding of the historical role of the mint. The government does not supply the silver or gold used at the mint. The supply comes from those who labor to produce it. The government's role in minting the coins is consistent with its constitutional role to regulate the value of money. It is also consistent with the constitutional requirement that legal tender be silver and gold only. But operating a mint does not in itself constitute creation of money.

Please read Antal Fekete's "OPENING THE MINT TO GOLD AND SILVER"

An excerpt follows:
"I should start by stating that the Mint is a monetary institution far more important than the Central Bank. It is an ancient and venerable institution. The Central Bank is a relatively new invention, hardly venerable. It was conceived to make ordinary people absorb the unpaid and unpayable debt of kings. The importance of the Mint is not to be found in its altogether negligible role of coining small change, the so-called subsidiary coinage which people use to make small purchases. The Mint is all-important because it is designed to produce real money. The origin of the Mint is intertwined with religion. From the point of view of political economy, the Mint is a reminder of the fact that, ultimately, real money is created (and extinguished) by the people and not by the government, or banks approved by the government. For example, the U.S. Constitution reserves the power to create money directly to the people themselves who convert gold and silver at the Mint into the coin of the realm (and extinguish money by melting it down). This is a power like habeas corpus that cannot be delegated, still less usurped. If the government grabs it, then, in the admirable phrase of Malcolm Muggeridge, it becomes the power of habeas cadaver. The Mint is the symbol of Constitutional Money, the only kind not subject to manipulation."
End of excerpt

Regarding your Ayn Rand comment...
I agree. A lot of Ayn Rand quotes make sense. A lot of other writers (like Fekete above) commenting on Ayn Rand make sense. But when I read Ayn Rand for myself, it makes my skin crawl. What a twisted convoluted mess!

"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants, but debt is the money of slaves."
--Norm Franz


PAGAU said...

@Justin LeBlanc
"I'm sure you've considered that the love of money is at the root of all kinds of evil."

PAGAU says:
Yes, actually I have considered that. It is enough to cause me to question the very need for money. It is enough to cause me to prefer the so-called "misquoted" phrasing--"money IS THE root of all evil."

Richard William Posner said...


Thank you for taking the time and effort to respond in such an even and well informed manner.

It's clear we do agree on many points. I for one am content with that. On the disagreement regarding fiat versus silver/gold, I'm willing to agree to disagree and be satisfied.

Contrary to popular misconception, talk is not cheap. The time it consumes is very dear to one of my years.

There is no way to Peace. Peace is the Way.

Joe D. said...

It's funny and very sad at the same time, reading and watching how Man is all his "wisdom" is trying to figure out, explain, and fix what's happening on this planet. The simple fact of the matter is, man's heart is wicked, and left to itself apart from being changed by God - we will reap what we sow - as an individual, a nation, or as a planet. You are seeing the battle for the souls of people being played out among mankind. The manifestation of a satanic government led by one who has always wanted to be God himself. All the brilliant thinkers and all the kings men can't stop the playing out of what was foretold so simply in the scriptures years ago. In the end, God wins, and all those who are His. Man has searched for the meaning of life and the source of real peace - and the answer has always been sitting between the front and back covers of your Grandmother's bible on her nightstand. So simple a child could understand it. The wisdom of man is foolishness to God. But He loves us and made a way for you and I to know Him - in and through the person of Jesus Christ. If you want to know if God exists, in humility, ask Him. He's big enough to show you. Even the heavens declare the glory of God. We are without excuse.
Ask Him.

Richard William Posner said...

Hi Joe D.

Please see my response to Tony above.

While I accept and honor your right to believe as you wish, I expect the same courtesy from you when I tell you I do not share it.

Thank you for taking the time to read and offer your thoughts.

Ask Yourself.

"Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence."
Robert Anton Wilson

Schmoepooh said...

Respecting different opinions acknowledged, there is a problem with religious faith, it is belief not based on what counts as evidence. William K. Clifford ("The Ethics of Belief") pointed the way 140 yrs ago. Bible scholars have known for two hundred years that the O and NTs as handed down cannot be accepted as even a coherent account of anything at all. Even the Flight from Egypt in Genesis is discredited by Israeli archeologists. Many of the characters are anthropomorphisms of astronomical regularities from the far distant past. The constellations were an agricultural calender around which all settled life revolved.
Be that as it may - a common thread throughout human culture is the underlying "golden rule" which works out in fact to correspond to conclusions reached by game theory when past encounters are available in the assessment of future strategies and whom to trust. The optimal strategy is to encourage the general welfare as the Founding Fathers and others going back to Hammurabbi's Code tought. Of course this strategy has to be formulated in ways that even those of the meanest or undeveloped intellect will be motivated to seek as a desirable goal. Most people given the opportunity will seek these (implicit) goals whether in the name of religious sages or secular ethical principles.

There is a saying in many cosmologies. "In the beginning was the word". It was language of the modern human kind (possibly less than 100,000 yrs) which created culture and permitted us with relatively small brains (smaller than Neanderthals) to create the "virtual reality" we inhabit. Don't get me wrong, civilizations collapse because our theories about the world do not match reality. It is the creation and control of this "virtual reality" that Mr. Posner is describing. Our response to the psychopaths who currently manipulate it is to use language as well if not better than they do. That is what "Activist Post" and other alternative comment seeks to do.

There are strategies. The Corporate Mollocks seek ever greater profits. They can be boycotted. Transitional Communities in New Zealand are thumbing their noses at processed and junk food. I buy real milk in glass bottles with two inches of cream on top. Our Fonterra parody of processed milk exported around the world is expensive and revolting.My daughter grows organic vegetables and there is no TV in that house. Lots of books, discussion, a piano and lots of music. The problem with religion is it encourages people to seek salvation in "the next world". I prefer to follow the sub-text of "The Da Vinci Code" and seek it in this one.

Anonymous said...

Generally interesting description of what is that many if not most, would agree on, but where are the answers, strategies and ways to resist?

Richard William Posner said...

@ Schmoepooh

I must have missed the email notification of your post while in the process of relocating. I regret the fact since your comments and observations are both cogent and articulate.

"Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence."
Robert Anton Wilson

Belief is accepting as fact something that cannot be so proven. Not often a good choice.
One needn't "believe" that 1+1=2. It's not a point in question. Belief is only required when doubt is present. It's a way to close the door on questions unanswered, which means only that the questions behind the door remain unanswered. It does, however, relieve the believer of the need to seek the truth.

"There is no shortcut to truth, no way to gain knowledge of the universe except through the gateway of the scientific method."
Karl Pearson

Describing the state of the indoctrinated mind as a "virtual reality" is very appealing and certainly an obvious, timely and accurate analogy. Thank you. I must remember it for future reference.

As to the corporatists and boycotts;
"I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men in our time.
We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil."
Albert Einstein

Your daughter's home sounds like a haven of sanity in a world gone predominately mad.

Yes, the reality beneath mythology is, in almost all cases, more useful than the fantasy.

Thank you for reading and offering your thoughts. They are appreciated.

Richard William Posner said...

Anonymous; Generally interesting description...

From my response just above;
"I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men in our time.
We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil."
Albert Einstein

And as one small bit of optimism;
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall.. think of it, always."
Mahatma Gandhi

Thank you for reading and taking time to comment.

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