Tuesday, January 25, 2011

How to Abolish the Fed and Convert to Gold as Money

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David Redick

Now that Rep. Ron Paul (R, TX-14) has become Chairman of the House Financial Services Subcommittee, which provides congressional oversight of our central bank, the Federal Reserve System (Fed), the managers at the Fed are facing the dreaded time when they may have to reveal the secret dealings that they use to help their political and banking friends worldwide. 

Vanity and job security are a big part of what guides Fed managers. They love the power and prestige of their jobs, and do whatever is needed to please the politicians who put them there. Of course, most of them are ‘true believers’ in the need for their control of ‘monetary policy’, despite the horrible record of the Fed, which has caused the US Dollar to lose over 95% of its value (purchasing power) causing prices to rise (price inflation) since the illegal, unconstitutional, creation of the Fed in 1913.  The main reason for this decline is expansion of the money supply (monetary inflation) caused by creation of fake ‘fiat’ money; where ‘face value’ is decreed by the government, even though the material it is made of may have more or less market value.

Most countries have central banks, but ours is the only one that is a private corporation owned by other banks; more on that below. Rep. Paul has made his concerns and solutions clear in his popular September, 2009 book End the Fed, as I have in my December, 2010 book Monetary Revolution-USA. As in these books, this essay will show why sound money (coins made of, or paper backed by, a commodity such as gold or silver) ends the so-called need (and means) for the counter-productive meddling of ‘monetary policy’ and fake money by the Fed in our nation’s economy.


The first salvo in their fight for survival was an article by Paul Hobby (Chairman of the Houston branch of the Dallas Fed) Hands Off the Fed in the Houston Chronicle on Jan. 22, 2011.  In his defense of the Fed from expected criticism by Rep. Paul, he said, ‘No one who studies the global economic issues today would forfeit this nation's ability to conduct monetary policy through a central bank’, and ‘Because the dollar is a fiat currency, confidence is the only backstop, and aggressive monetary policy provided that confidence at a decisive moment.’ Kudos to Robert Wenzel for his January 23, 2011 article Is This the Best the Fed Can Do in Its Defense? where he challenges Hobby’s article and describes the false statements and counterproductive conduct by the Fed.

I say, yes indeed our ‘Fed Notes’ (dollars) and base-metal coins are ‘Fiat and based on confidence’, and that’s why we have the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.) to give depositors false ‘confidence’. With sound money, no FDIC, central bank, or legal-tender laws are needed, and poorly managed banks are subject to insolvency and bankruptcy. No more bailing-out of greedy bankers (also political buddies) who use high-risk deals and high-leverage fractional reserves to increase profits. The sound money approach produces more personal responsibility by depositors to keep an eye on their bank and move their deposits to another one if they don’t like its policies. The incentives are positive for both the depositor and bankers. We now have ‘nanny’ government serving this watchdog role, which creates the corruption and failure we see around us today.

Creation of the Fed
Politicians and bankers like central banks that control the national monetary system, because they can manipulate them to gain funding (create money) without politically unpopular taxation. England created the world’s first central bank in 1694. In 1791, the ‘First Bank of the United States’, (BUS-1), was started, but it failed in 1811. The second attempt was the ‘Second Bank of the United States’ (BUS-2), which was chartered in 1816, with a renewal required in 1836. The main reason that BUS-2 was chartered was that spending for the War of 1812 caused severe inflation and we had difficulty in financing military operations. It was a privately held corporation that had privileges with the federal government to give it access to substantial profits. President Andrew Jackson strongly opposed the renewal of the bank’s charter, and built his platform for the election of 1832 around doing away it, which he did in Sep-1833. The Federal Reserve System should be considered the third U.S. central bank (BUS-3). The plan to create this financial monster was consummated on November 22, 1910 in a secret meeting at a private club on Jekyll Island, Georgia.

This meeting included seven of the most powerful financial people in Europe and America, led by Sen. Nelson W. Aldrich, who was a business associate of J. P. Morgan and father-in-law to John D. Rockefeller, Jr.  The sole intention of these conspirators was to draft a blueprint for a strong central bank that served their interests. This was the blueprint for the Federal Reserve System and the prize was the future control of the money supply and credit of the United States. It was created ‘By Politicians and Bankers, for Politicians and Bankers’.

Because the Federal Reserve System was authorized to issue paper money (first ‘Silver Certificates’, then ‘Federal Notes’), it was unconstitutional from its inception because Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution only allows the government to ‘coin money’, and further does not permit it to create and operate a bank. Another challenge to the schemers was to prepare a program of fundamental banking reform and get it past the scrutiny of patriotic Congressmen and the American public. 

Aldrich headed a commission in 1911 to study the role and need for central banks. He came home from a study trip to Europe claiming to be a new supporter of them, but that was a ploy to cover the existing plans from Jekyll Island in 1910. The Aldrich Commission's report was submitted to Congress in 1912. Although Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, won the 1912 election, the Republican Aldrich's plan shaped the extensive debate that followed. A Democrat, Carter Glass of Virginia, shepherded the Federal Reserve Act through the Congress. On Dec. 23, 1913, when many Congresspersons, including major opponents of central banking, had already left town, Congress adopted the Federal Reserve Act, also known as the Owens-Carter Act. 

Even the name was meant to deceive, so they chose: 1. ‘Federal’ to make it seem to be part of the government, and 2. ‘System’ instead of ‘Bank’ because many Congresspersons opposed a federal bank. They planned the ‘system’ with twelve regional banks (each a privately owned corporation) to satisfy private bankers that their regional concerns would be heard.

Some people claim the above ‘secret meeting’ never happened, but one of the group, Frank Vanderlip, wrote a first-hand account of the meeting a quarter of a century later (1935) in his book From Farm Boy to Financier. Although the book is out of print, excerpts from it may be viewed here. Thus, the Fed was created, and was assigned twin policy goals of; 1. Price stability, and 2. Full employment. It has been an extreme failure at both, as described below. Of course, as a government body, this failure is not seen as a reason to restructure or abolish it! The Politicians and Bankers still want it as a means to create money out of thin air!

The Fed’s Record of Results
The purchasing power of the US dollar has dropped by more than 95% since the Fed started in 1913, all due to excess creation of new money (expansion of the money supply; monetary inflation). This hurts the people (especially those on limited or fixed incomes, and those with savings), but the bankers have done well, since they make money selling US debt (T-bills, etc.) and get bailed-out when in trouble due to their own greed (Bear-Stearns in 2008, etc.). Most Fed meetings are secret, and proceedings are not even available to Congress.  Preposterous! Some economists say the Fed is needed in order to assure adequate 'liquidity' or ‘elasticity’ for growth by proper expansion of the money supply, equal to growth of the economy; about 3 to 5% per year. The problem is that such powers are always abused by governments (by expansion of 10 to 20% per year, or more!), though some (the Swiss) less than others (the US is among the worst of the major currencies). 

We cannot, and should not, trust the government or Fed to 'manage' our monetary system. This excess money causes bad spending and investment decisions at both the business and personal level, which creates financial distortions (big peaks, then valleys), as seen in: 1. Bailing-out England after WW1, leading to mal-investment (too much money around) and the crash of 1929 when the Fed suddenly reduced the money supply by about 30%, and 2. The 2007-2008 housing price and construction collapse due to a Fed interest rate increase of 4.25% (from 1 to 5.25%) in 2006, and 3. Many other large peaks and valleys, and 90% loss of purchasing value, since the Fed was created. So much for government 'management' of currency and the economy!

What Should We Do Now?
Our present system of big spending and fake money is not sustainable. The Fed should be abolished and Fed Notes replaced by gold as money. This will; 1. Put limits on government spending by stopping its endless supply of fake money, and 2. Reduce or end the wars and business cycles funded by it. The use of gold as money gives a positive incentive to save, and avoid debt, due to appreciation of purchasing power of the money.  Econ 101 tells us that a commodity (such as gold) in limited supply, and with increasing demand for it (growth of the economy), will appreciate in value. This has huge importance because it kills the ‘there is not enough gold’ argument against gold! Appreciation is ignored by most economists and suppressed by, or unknown to, all politicians.  The conversion of our present Fed Notes to ‘gold as money’ can be done by the following ‘Six-Step Plan’ (this is a 'short-form' description). 

Step 1 Repeal all legal tender laws so private firms (mints) can issue new money. The Federal Reserve will be abolished five years after private money becomes legal (or if Congress refuses abolishment, let it atrophy to death from lack of customers and income). 

Step 2 Allow private mints to be created without government permission or license, with new gold money labeled by the weight of gold a coin contains, or that tokens or paper certificates represent. 

Step 3  Require the Federal Reserve banks, the U.S. Treasury (Ft. Knox), the Exchange Stabilization Fund, and any other part of the United States government, to promptly submit to a private audit of the amount and quality of gold they own and its title status (leased?), reveal the results to the public, and then give it all to a ‘Redemption Trust’ owned by the U.S. Treasury, to be used to redeem existing coin or paper currency on demand, based on a certain weight per Dollar, in accordance with the plan below. Private sources put our total money supply (M3) at about $14 trillion worldwide in mid 2010. If the M3 dollars were redeemable in our claimed 260.415 million troy ounces of gold there would be 0.0000186 oz. per dollar. This means 53,763 dollars would equal one troy ounce, thus an ounce would be worth $53,763, in today’s pricing method. This implies a 97% drop in the dollar's current value versus today's $1,400 per oz. The dreaded day of reckoning! But this issue fades as all nations convert to gold money, and they must, or no sellers will take their trash 'money' once the US dollar is redeemable. There will be no ‘price’ for gold, just its weight.

Until a proper audit is done, we cannot be certain how much gold the US has. Fortunately, the amount of gold per dollar is not crucial. It will set a new standard, whatever it may be, and we will grow from there. The same applies to all nations that also convert.  There will be no 'price' for gold, just its weight.  Thus, sellers will show prices of things by weight of gold (food, cars, whatever), such as '20 milligrams' each, etc.  People and governments may want to assign a 'name' to certain weights (that's how the 'dollar' got started, as a weight of silver), but this should be avoided because it leads to corruption by reducing the weight or quality of the metal associated with a 'name, and the 'name' is then used in pricing.  This is called 'debasement' of the currency; an old story since before the Roman Empire.

Step 4 Abolish the unconstitutional GSEs such as Fannie, Freddie, Ginnie, and Sallie Mae, FHA, Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp (PBGC), FDIC, all TARP-Like projects, ‘special’ bankruptcies, corporate-takeovers, Recovery-Stimulant Acts, the Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF), the Export-Import Bank, etc., etc.  All of these are part of the government’s intervention in, and manipulation of, money, private business, and banking.

Step 5 Terminate US membership in the IMF (and get our gold back), World Bank, BIS, G-20, G-8, United Nations, and others. Their ‘manipulation’ role will end with use of money valued in weight of gold. Free trade and embassies are adequate for communication with other nations. 

Step 6 Work to repeal or change other unconstitutional and counterproductive Federal laws, and policies that intervene in our lives, economy, and the world.

The above ‘Six-Step Plan’ includes a formidable list of legal changes, and of course most people in government (all branches, and all levels; city to federal) will oppose them, initially. However, as our economy and the US dollar crash (2012, 2020 ??), the pressure for change will be enormous, and we will win many converts to gold. An advantage of this plan is that just the removal of legal tender laws will allow gold money to prove its benefits. Other changes can follow.  Central bankers and the IMF are already devising methods to minimize damage from the dollar's ongoing decline.  The current plan is to use a 'basket of currencies', including the USD, Yen, Euro, and Yuan.  they hope this will allow a 'graceful decline' of the USD as the world's reserve currency, without wreaking havoc and losses in world banking and commerce.  It won't work, because they will still end up using fiat money manipulated by politicians and bankers.

As painful as this transition to ‘gold as money’ may be, it is better than the hyperinflation (with currency values approaching zero) that is otherwise 99% likely to occur.

We can enjoy the benefits of sound money, and avoid a crash of our economy, currency and lifestyle if we implement this plan for conversion to gold money. If we crash, meaning severe reduction in economic activity (depression), and 50% to 90% loss of purchasing power of the US dollar, we will need to rebuild from the ashes. This can be viewed as an opportunity for the people to spontaneously start using gold as money. They will see its benefits, and demand to keep it! The laws can follow. Politicians will be desperate to keep their jobs so will cooperate to pass and repeal laws as needed; otherwise they will be fired and replaced.

It will require something like the above ‘crash’ circumstances, and a people-led Monetary Revolution, to take back our government from the self-serving career politicians, empire-building warmongers (neocons), and banksters. Please spread the word to help get the Monetary Revolution started. Thanks.

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David Redick is a businessman and author in Madison, WI, and President of Forward-USA

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19 comments:

dogismyth said...

I call them gold morons. Why? Because even with evolution and the technological advances we still feel the need to glum onto a pretty than like gold which really belongs to no one, except mother earth. But the masses are like sheep, believing that gold is the solution to their lives and the security for all the dangers they may confront.

Humans stop evolving quite a while ago, and I would guess they are actually in a retro-evolutionary stage. Stupidity is front and center. Bewilderment and infatuation is the mindset. Critical thinking is gone. Its a free-for-all. All the while, innovation is slowly dying on the vine, or being withheld by the powers-that-be so that we are continually suppressed and do not get "to comfortable" with life.

After all, life was not meant to be enjoyed. You must work. Live in fear. Donate half your wages. Salute war and death and genocide. Support the criminal mafia known as our government. Live with untruths. Substitute propaganda for reality. Ingest poisonous foods, water, air, medicine.

Its a grand fucking life, and you gold nutballs are worried about hiding your gold away so you can either be richer than someone else or so you can protect yourself from...? (sorry, I haven't figured that part out yet).

Moronic is the only word I can find.

I hope you drop that fucking bar of gold on your head and get some sense. All of ya!!

Anonymous said...

I say "DO IT!" Use the six steps and "end the
Fed."

Anonymous said...

Hypocrite!

What you seek is legal tender status for gold; it would be accepted for taxes thus guaranteeing its exchange value.

Government money should be pure fiat but only legal tender for debts to government, not private ones.

Play with gold and usury in the private sector and not attempt to force the rest of us to be enslaved to a shiny metal.

Anonymous said...

The goldbugs are fun to read, but they can not be taken seriously. It is time that the truth be spoken clearly: Our present Dollar fiat system is superior to any kind of gold standard. What the goldbugs criticize as weakness of the fiat system is in fact a huge advantage. Life is much better under a fiat system where credit money can be created out of thin air. Witness all the trillions of Dollars of debt. This is money which was spent without being earned. And the best part of it is, that debt will not have to be repaid. The Fed will take care of that problem in time. And the goldbugs want to eliminate such a superior system? How crazy they must be!

Anonymous said...

The best way to end the gov is to simple let it go bankrupt. Thus making it illegal in the future for it to borrow again. Thus will have to live with its yearly intake of money. But thats not in it plans. It will go bankrupt into its own terms. They will pay off all other nation first. an go to a one world currency. People will gladly adopt to it since everything is worth nothing even gold.

Anonymous said...

Here's a trick for ya: That 50 dollar (face value) gold bullion coin has the same purchasing power as 1300 FRNs. And by excepting only that gold coin, privately, for payment in any transaction; the taxes due will be calculated based upon the face value of that gold coin which is only $50. Neat uh?

Also by not dealing in gold & silver coin you have NO property rights!

Property IS the holy grail of law.
And you wonder why the STATE owns you and your 'stuff' (can't call it property).

Get a clue MORONS! ;)

Anonymous said...

you're living within the old order Moron. How long do yo think that system will last when a majority of folks hardly hold any gold? You really think you have an edge...don't ya?

Good luck with that. In a game of rock, scissors, paper and lead....lead always wins.

Econman said...

WE ARE GOING TO A GLOBAL CURRENCY...GO TO www.economytrap.blogspot.com and find out why

K Smith said...

Namecalling will not stop the truth.

More and more ordinary citizens are learning the truth about the Federal Reserve, that it steals wealth from the pockets of those who create wealth thru work by inflating the currency. More and more people are demanding sound money.

No one can stop the truth.

"But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream." Amos 5:7

Howlingmad said...

It IS the 'Answer' . . . that seems to be PAINFULLY clear. I 'Like' the idea, myself. We have GOT to 'Stop' the foolishness currently going on, its GOING to come apart, its only a matter of 'Time' ( Which IS running out )A 'Structured', ORDERED change, will prevent such a change, from 'Hurting' most people. The SOONER the BETTER.

Anonymous said...

"you're living within the old order Moron."

Guess this means your all for this 'New World Order' ey? Well, it's going to be allowed to succeed for three years, just long enough to give you a taste of your own stupidity. You don't know it yet, but the joke is on you. Don't worry, it's all Good; a learning process that started way back in the Garden of Eden.

"You really think you have an edge...don't ya?"

Well, if what you mean by "having an edge" is knowledge and understanding? Then I agree--DUH!
And no, I don’t know it all, but the little bit that I do know; I know quite well.

"How long do you think that system will last when a majority of folks hardly hold any gold?"

Why don't you try opening your eyes; the majority of the people, throughout history have always been the slaves/chattel--nothing new here.
Slaves deal in debt/credit, freemen and kings deal in gold & silver currency (real property). It's ALWAYS been this way, and it ALWAYS will be this way--like it or not.

Not here to convince you to free yourself (we do need slaves); just stating an immutable fact, that’s all. You just keep on doin, what ever it is that floats your boat.

"In a game of rock, scissors, paper and lead....lead always wins".

Typical mentality of an 8 year old, or simply a public school educated fool, who hasn't woken up yet (if it ever will) to reality.

Look, it ain't this way because I say so. I'm just an observer, who can see reality for what it is. Research the law and history yourself, and you'll come to the same conclusion—simple (with a little effort).

Peace

Sasha said...

What a bunch of low quality comments.

Did any of you read the article?

The goal is not to have gold as the sole money, the way dollars are now.

The goal is a multitude of competing currencies. Local currencies, industry currencies, bank/corporate currencies, gold currencies, other commodity backed currencies, fiat currencies, etc.

Let people decide what is the most trustworthy. Don't force everyone to use one rapidly depreciating currency, that they have no control over.

This is, incidentally, the system Ron Paul advocates.

Probably gold based currencies would gain prominence, just because of the inherent stability of gold - but this is not certain, and it would never be a monopoly.

People just read the word "gold" and their brains shut off and they go repeating something they heard many decades ago. Read the article, people. Want some mental stimulation, go read some Murray Rothbard.

Anonymous said...

"The goal is not to have gold as the sole money, the way dollars are now."

Don't think anybody here is advocating gold only. What works, and works very well is a bi-metal currency: gold AND silver. The problem arises when paper currency is allowed into the picture. This is exactly the reason (besides stupid people) we are in such an economic mess today. It makes it too easy for governments (greedy smart people) and bankers (more greedy...) to manipulate the currency to their own advantage, at the expense of every one else.

But hey, people are going to keep doing what people do, and nothing you or I can do, or say, is going to change this. What you and I CAN do, is abandon this insanity of relying on, and supporting, these self-centered, self-serving (actually I'm no different; five human motivators, take your pick: vanity, jealousy, lust, greed, and/or fear) politicians. And start dealing privately in real property. That can be anything: from gold/silver to your skills/labor, and anything in between of substantive value.

That trick I mentioned earlier should be motivation enough (those with an IQ above 60 anyway) for using gold and silver currency verses FRNs (Federal Reserve Notes BTW—duh!). Just think of the wealth you could keep! Our Treasury department, believe it or not, issues gold and silver coinage in direct response to the demand for it. Yes, HJR 192 of June 5, 1933 as been repealed. So, we don’t need the above pipe-dream scenario (the article here-in—CONgress would never allow it anyway) to take back our prosperity and liberty today! Of course, I’m over simplifying things a bit here, but not by much!

Knowing the law has a LOT to do with ones ability to fending off the parasites in position of perceived authority. You ever notice how they don’t teach you law in public schools? And how the law is conveniently written in code? Hmm…?

I could go on and on, but...

Peace

Anonymous said...

Mess with the Federal Reserve's Business and you end up dead. Ask Lincoln, McKinley, Kennedy, and Garfield. Oh wait, their dead. Other than all being assassinated in office, they all had something else in common. They wanted to get rid of the Federal Reserve. Well, It appears that the Federal reserve is still here and they aren't. Most people don't even realize that the Federal Reserve isn't even a Federal institution. It is about as Federal as Federal Express. The Worlds Super Elite are who run the Federal Reserve. All I can say to Ron Paul is, "Watch your Back Good Buddy" He is setting himself up to be a marked man. Mark my words!!! When they want you out of the way, they get the job done.

I hope he can be the 1st to make that breakthrough. My prayers are with you Ron!

Rich said...

DECLARE YOUR SOVEREIGNTY FROM THE CORRUPT CORPORATE UNITED STATES!!!

PLEEEEEASE READ and UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION PRESENTED BELOW. It’s the ONLY WAY to beat these pricks at their OWN GAME..USING THE LAW!!!

READ the links at the BOTTOM of the article, watch the videos. READ it over and over until you UNDERSTAND IT! GET the BOOK “TITLE 4 FLAG MEANS YOUR SCHWAG”!!

WE HAVE ALL BE DUPED, LIED TO and TOTALLY DECEIVED by crafty lawyers, politicians, the government and the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK!!! PLEASE READ THIS AND TAKE ACTION ON IT TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY FROM THESE LYING LAWS AND CRIMINALS!!!

U.S. CEASES TO EXIST IN 1933

“It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been DISSOLVED by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent, H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 Joint Resolution to suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause DISSOLVED the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in NAME ONLY!!!.

The U.S. Government declared bankruptcy in 1933 in Roosevelt’s executive orders 6073, 6102, 6111, AND 6260 confirmed in v. US (1935) The fictional UNITED STATES Corporation still exists on paper as a commercial enterprise with immense debt to foreign bankers. As a matter of fact corporation floundering in and out of bankruptcy since 1871when Congress went bankrupt from the civil war. The United States was incorporated to borrow money from English bankers who proposed the offer to control American lawmakers.

How does U.S. Inc secure the loans?

The UNITED STATES corporation now uses your birth certificate, filed as a registered security with the United States Department of Commerce as collateral to secure credit from the world bank; England’s private bank, thus making you liable for the national debt. Each ‘strawman’ birth certificate is considered to be a fictitious person, a second-class citizen, a corporation "a Vessel of the United States" that was voluntarily applied for by the parents and created by the Birth

Registrar of the State, another corporation "a Vessel of the United States", For the purpose of securing the national debt.

The CRUX of the Matter!

he UNITED STATES Corporation is a bankrupt corporation that is deep in debt to the WORLD BANK (England) and every U.S. citizen (vessel) including each State, county and city is governed by their contracts created under the UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE. And, the good old U.S. of A considers its vessel-citizens liable for its debt, therefore it loans huge sums of bank draft to States, counties and cities so that they can in turn collect fines and taxes from all of their subjects.

Your birth certificate is essentially a business license in the form of a warehouse receipt for the registration of your original birth record. Where the original is being stored on your behalf by the UNITED STATES Corporation, it is bonded and used as collateral for a loan of $1,000,000 that is kept in your Social Security Treasury Direct Account. TITLE 18 of the UNITED STATES CODE calls it a “Vessel of the UNITED STATES”.

If you CLAIM to be the all CAPS name on the Birth Certificate and/or Driver’s License contract, or if you claim to be a citizen of the UNITED STATES you are understood to be chattel of the commercial state, ultimately a slave to the Crown of England. -Sound familiar?

http://chinesehealthandfitness.com/MaritimeLaw.html

Procinctu.info coming in February said...

coinage act of 1792 anybody? dollars nickels dimes quarters get their titles from the coinage act of 1792. coins were to be made of gold and silver. debasement of currency was punishable by death.

and what happened....dollars nickels dimes quarters...the entire currency was debased.....

Anonymous said...

THE SKY IS FALLING.

Federal Reserve said...

"I call them gold morons. Why? Because even with evolution and the technological advances we still feel the need to glum onto a pretty than like gold which really belongs to no one, except mother earth."

What kind of communist statement is that? By that logic no one can truly own anything, not even their own body. Seriously, get a grip.

Anonymous said...

dogismyth said...
"Its a grand fucking life, and you gold nutballs are worried about hiding your gold away so you can either be richer than someone else or so you can protect yourself from...? (sorry, I haven't figured that part out yet"

I have and its called protection from inflation created by the unlimited printing of so called dollars by the gov.

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